Signatures on slabs instead5559

Originally Posted by SpiderTim
Problem with coins is that they aren't big enough to get signatures on them comics however are large enough to fit signatures.

Originally Posted by conditionfreak
Didn't want to interfere with someones elses thread about autograph opportunities. So I did this thread.

I dabble in coin collecting. But not much really. Anyway, I have noticed that graded coins are now being signed on the coin holders (slabs) by various people having to do with the production of the coins. No one really famous, but people in the business of producting the art and the coins.

So it got me to thinking. Why do we keep messing up our comic books with scribbles[?] A few are very nice looking signatures, most are a mess. And the book itself is ruined just as if little Tommy Smith wrote his own name on all of his books.

Now, there is a certain appeal to having a book once owned by Little Tommy Smith, with his signature on it. But only to a very very few collectors.

Why do we not collect signatures on the slabs ala the coin collector practice?

Or do we do that now, but in a very small volume and it just hasn't caught on?

I guess the biggest problem would be with authentication. But I feel that problem could be solved. Maybe with a registry of the label certification numbers being listed on a Signature Registry as being a true signature.

It would save books from scribbling, and yet have the exact same effect.

Sketches and the like could also be worked out. But sketches on blank covers could stay the way they are now done, as you ain't messing up any cover artwork on a blank cover.

Just some food for thought.

Originally Posted by MR_SigS
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Originally Posted by conditionfreak
Didn't want to interfere with someones elses thread about autograph opportunities. So I did this thread.

I dabble in coin collecting. But not much really. Anyway, I have noticed that graded coins are now being signed on the coin holders (slabs) by various people having to do with the production of the coins. No one really famous, but people in the business of producting the art and the coins.

So it got me to thinking. Why do we keep messing up our comic books with scribbles[?] A few are very nice looking signatures, most are a mess. And the book itself is ruined just as if little Tommy Smith wrote his own name on all of his books.

Now, there is a certain appeal to having a book once owned by Little Tommy Smith, with his signature on it. But only to a very very few collectors.

Why do we not collect signatures on the slabs ala the coin collector practice?

Or do we do that now, but in a very small volume and it just hasn't caught on?

I guess the biggest problem would be with authentication. But I feel that problem could be solved. Maybe with a registry of the label certification numbers being listed on a Signature Registry as being a true signature.

It would save books from scribbling, and yet have the exact same effect.

Sketches and the like could also be worked out. But sketches on blank covers could stay the way they are now done, as you ain't messing up any cover artwork on a blank cover.

Just some food for thought.

I think this can be answered as the people who do this don't see it as "messing up" their possessions rather than enhancing them.

Originally Posted by shrewbeer
I think I started a thread about this last year.

My GD’Otto Iron Fist #1 virgin is in a 9.8 CBCS slab. It is shipping out soon to a family member that is having a business meeting with the Wu-Tang members. Several are going to sign the slab for me.

I’ve experimented with a few different markers, and havent made my choice yet which will be best (additional suggestions welcome!).

So yes, I am all for this idea!

Originally Posted by conditionfreak
Why do we keep messing up our comic books with scribbles.

Originally Posted by TimBildhauser
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Originally Posted by conditionfreak
Why do we keep messing up our comic books with scribbles.

Being a signature collector myself I don't consider a creator's signature on their printed work to be damaging to it. The analogy I often use is this: If you have a 1st edition of Great Expectations signed by Charles Dickens or The Shining signed by Stephen King, would you consider it to be ruined?

Everyone has their own preference and should collect whatever & however it makes them happy. If you don't like signatures on books, don't get books signed but at the same time don't feel as if a personal preference gives the right to dictate to someone else whether or not they should be getting books signed. It's just that simple.

Originally Posted by TimBildhauser
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Originally Posted by conditionfreak
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Originally Posted by TimBildhauser
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Originally Posted by conditionfreak
Why do we keep messing up our comic books with scribbles.

Being a signature collector myself I don't consider a creator's signature on their printed work to be damaging to it. The analogy I often use is this: If you have a 1st edition of Great Expectations signed by Charles Dickens or The Shining signed by Stephen King, would you consider it to be ruined?

Everyone has their own preference and should collect whatever & however it makes them happy. If you don't like signatures on books, don't get books signed but at the same time don't feel as if a personal preference gives the right to dictate to someone else whether or not they should be getting books signed. It's just that simple.

Disagree with almost everything. And I am allowed to disagree.

How can me writing my name on an ASM #100, differ with Andrew Garfield signing his name on the artwork of a comic book cover, or even the interior? I mean like, it's my book. Garfield had no part in the production of ASM #100.

Yet, my signature will detract from the grade and his will not.

And I am NOT saying that MY personal preference should be adhered too by all. Of course everyone should collect what they want to collect. Be it cow manure or comic books cut into quarter sized pieces.

I am just making the case for a better way. Grading companies can still get their piece of the pie, by charging a fee for a Signature Registry. If that is the concern. But to intentionally harm or degrade the structural integrity of a paper product worshipped for its "grade", is silly.

Think about it. No more writing that resembles the stamp of a roosters claw. No more cockroaches over the top of a badly written signature. No more scribbling over the lead characters face, or crotch.

A 9.8 with an autograph, will actually be a 9.8

Like I said in a previous post in this thread. It's your money and your book. Do what you want with it. But all things should at least attempt to progress towards a better way. Don't ya think?

It's that simple.

You are allowed to disagree but you've clearly missed my point (or are choosing to ignore it). Just because you aren't willing to accept the fact that a book can still be a 9.8 with a signature on it doesn't make it true. Both CBCS and CGC subscribe to the opposite viewpoint and, no, it's not simply about the revenue stream the signature program generates although I'm certain you won't agree with that.

Your suggestion that signature collectors get the slab itself signed is completely absurd for one reason. Not everyone slabs their books. Would your suggestion to collectors that don't submit books for grading be that if they want a signature they get the bags they store their books in signed? Just leave people alone to collect what they want the way they want.