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New/inexperienced buyers: stick with slabs.5344

Captain Corrector CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user
I sense that this thread was inspired by the “Giant sized xmen 1 with no price on cover,” thread from earlier today.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
Now THIS is the kind of discussion we could have all the time!
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I sense that this thread was inspired by the “Giant sized xmen 1 with no price on cover,” thread from earlier today.


Indeed it was. That buyer wouldn't have had any problems if he'd bought a slab. He might have even gotten a nice copy for less money, already slabbed.
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
We were asked (told?) to "say something" to the moderators.

So I will.

Dear moderators. Who holds the record in this forum, for most disputes, arguments and fights?

Who is the common denominator of this fraction of hostility?

Just the facts please. If it's me, say so.

If it's someone else, tell them. Some people like directness and honesty more than they like silence and avoidance of the truth.

Be careful what you ask for, as you just might get it.
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The best advice I could give to a newbie, is talk with a long time collector or investor often. Ask questions about everything that isn't obvious to you. Become a friend to a long time collector or at least visit this forum often and read, read, read.

You can't advise a new buyer in one paragraph the best ways and reasons to by comics.


Also helpful advice, and maybe deserves a thread.

Good paragraph
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Stop trolling your own thread, Doc.
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Forum Crier OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user
Just a matter of time now
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We were asked (told?) to "say something" to the moderators.

So I will.

Dear moderators. Who holds the record in this forum, for most disputes, arguments and fights?

Who is the common denominator of this fraction of hostility?

Just the facts please. If it's me, say so.

If it's someone else, tell them. Some people like directness and honesty more than they like silence and avoidance of the truth.

Be careful what you ask for, as you just might get it.


This post is off-topic for this thread. If you wish to make a thread of your own, dealing with whatever issues you may have, you should do so. I think people here would rather just discuss the topic.
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Just a matter of time now


It doesn't need to be. Don't let it be.
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It doesn't need to be. Don't let it be.

Not my call but if a moderator wants my opinion, I'll give it to them. I think if they read the thread, they can figure it out themselves.
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When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom
"Let it be"
And in my hour of darkness
She is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom
"Let it be"
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Where’s Towmater to slam that report button lol

No seriously, what happened to him?
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It doesn't need to be. Don't let it be.

Not my call but if a moderator wants my opinion, I'll give it to them. I think if they read the thread, they can figure it out themselves.


I agree completely. But you're a member of this community, and your opinion matters. If those who are tired of the bullshit and petty personal attacks don't say something, it will just be assumed that the problem isn't so bad.

I know there are people who want this place to be better, more informed, with a deeper level of knowledge, and a healthy respect for disagreement, not people being endlessly offended because someone disagrees with them, so they try and pick fights like little arsonists starting fires everywhere.

I enjoy the nerdy discussions about comics minutiae. I enjoy respectful disagreement. "Well, ok, but have you considered THIS...?" We all learn when we're exposed to differing opinions.

But when everything devolves into personal, petty snipes, it's just so damn old already. "You think you're holier than thou..." "...but with less words." "way to rub salt in the wound"...these comments serve no purpose other than to try to start a fight, and frankly, I'm done with it. I'm not fighting with these people anymore.

But if moderation doesn't hear from others...and I damn well KNOW they're sick of hearing from me...then nothing will change, and we'll continue to have the same lowbrow, playground atmosphere, where nobody has the chance to discuss anything of any substance, because there's a group of people who are ever-offended, and you will damn well know it.
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VAComicsGuy said something a while back that I wanted to respond to, but never got around to.

He made a post about a topic, and at the end, actually apologized for the length of it.

I thought to myself "why are you apologizing for anything? Is your opinion not worth sharing? Is it only worth sharing if it can be condensed to Tweet size? You have as much right to your opinion, within the framework of this board, as anyone else, so why apologize for sharing it? If you have something to say, say it! Don't be ashamed if it takes "a lot of words." There's nothing wrong with "a lot of words", if you have something to say...even if you don't have something to say, but what you're saying was interesting.

The longest post ever posted on this board wouldn't fill a 10 page high school report paper, so the complaints...it's just not cool.
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Just a matter of time now


It doesn't need to be. Don't let it be.

It shouldn't be. Several others found this to be a helpful topic, but you're the only one who is wrong?
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Where’s Towmater to slam that report button lol

No seriously, what happened to him?


He got a weeks suspension from here, at the same time DocBrown got his first suspension from here (last October), and towmater never came back.

I think he just got mad at this forum and decided not to return after his suspension.

I hope that is the reason, and nothing happened to him.
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Just a matter of time now


It doesn't need to be. Don't let it be.

It shouldn't be. Several others found this to be a helpful topic, but you're the only one who is wrong?


I think it's a great topic, and I wish we could have more like these.
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Just a matter of time now


It doesn't need to be. Don't let it be.

It shouldn't be. Several others found this to be a helpful topic, but you're the only one who is wrong?


I think it's a great topic, and I wish we could have more like these.


We can have as many as we want. Plenty of space here, and plenty of knowledge.
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We can have as many as we want. Plenty of space here, and plenty of knowledge.


Could that be a...

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Just a matter of time now


It doesn't need to be. Don't let it be.

It shouldn't be. Several others found this to be a helpful topic, but you're the only one who is wrong?


I think it's a great topic, and I wish we could have more like these.


We can have as many as we want. Plenty of space here, and plenty of knowledge.


Then you're going to have to make an effort to not be so offended at things with which you disagree, understand that disagreement isn't a personal attack, forthrightness isn't "telling people what to do", and try to find common ground, because it DOES exist.

Towmater had more than one suspension, and his last suspension had nothing to do with me.

He's gone for now, but he had things of value to contribute. Everyone has things of value to contribute, if we all could just learn to dial it back about 50 degrees, and understand that someone disagreeing with us isn't a personal attack.
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All of you have just showed the real problem with these forums. Get a good topic that people WANT to help with, and the page count goes up and may scare off a new reader IF they ever find it.
Otherwise, minus the timely "buzz", the thread goes dark and gets buried in the cobwebs system. Everything gained and shared now lost.

Some of the points brought up by a lot of you, even "you" and "your sparring partner", have REALLY been fantastic. Self control, self edited communication, general courtesy ....these WERE being done.
Go back on the first two pages and see, objectively, how posters have gone out of their way to HELP here.

Long story short, everyone has something to say.
COMMUNICATION is not just saying what you want, but REACHING your audience...especially, if you want to make a difference.
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The best advice I could give to a newbie, is talk with a long time collector or investor often. Ask questions about everything that isn't obvious to you. Become a friend to a long time collector or at least visit this forum often and read, read, read.

You can't advise a new buyer in one paragraph the best ways and reasons to by comics.


Also helpful advice, and maybe deserves a thread.

Good paragraph


The person who ran the original LCS I went to took me under their wing, taught me how to grade and taught me a ton about collecting comics. The internet has made learning these things so much easier and faster.
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All of you have just showed the real problem with these forums. Get a good topic that people WANT to help with, and the page count goes up and may scare off a new reader IF they ever find it.
Otherwise, minus the timely "buzz", the thread goes dark and gets buried in the cobwebs system. Everything gained and shared now lost.

Some of the points brought up by a lot of you, even "you" and "your sparring partner", have REALLY been fantastic. Self control, self edited communication, general courtesy ....these WERE being done.
Go back on the first two pages and see, objectively, how posters have gone out of their way to HELP here.

Long story short, everyone has something to say.
COMMUNICATION is not just saying what you want, but REACHING your audience...especially, if you want to make a difference.


Is this really that important of a topic? To me it's akin to saying "don't look directly into the sun, you'll hurt your eyes".
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Is this really that important of a topic? To me it's akin to saying "don't look directly into the sun, you'll hurt your eyes".


I was kind of thinking the same thing, like, "buyer beware".
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I was kind of thinking the same thing, like, "buyer beware".


You've seen the caliber of some of the questions asked by newbs, right....?

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People here have said they have been victims of fraud.

Not really something I'd want to do to someone else, let alone happen to me or any friend of mine.

Important topic?
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
I love reading about comic books. And I love learning about comic books (and just about anything else). And I love a good debate. I NEVER get personal, unless the barbs are directed at me first.

When I am personally attacked with comments about "calling me out" for blah, blah, blah. I respond. Check other threads, but y'all have read them.

So yea. I can be a jerk. But remember this. I NEVER do it first. You push me and I push back twice as hard.

It's laughable when a certain person here says he "just wants to have a good discussion" and that "disagreements should not result in attacks". When he does it all of the time. He even jumped down the throat of a newbie asking newbie questions, and insinuated he was stupid. But said what he did was justified because that newbie needed to be told how stupid he was, for his own good.

You leave me alone and I will leave you alone. I have no desire whatsoever interacting with you. Just control your mouth and I will control mine.

And for Gods sake. Quit crying to the moderators trying to sound like the little kid in the playground being bullied. YOU are the bully here. Just like you did to that newbie. You have been suspended for a week and then for two weeks. Either a moderator is really unfair and misguided. Or you earned those suspensions. Getting a suspension is not evil and could happen to any of us on a bad day. I will grant you that. But you are in an argument and dispute EVERY DAY here.

This is my last dispute with you, unless you attack me again.

Promise.
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Is this really that important of a topic? To me it's akin to saying "don't look directly into the sun, you'll hurt your eyes".


I was kind of thinking the same thing, like, "buyer beware".


For some people, common sense isn't so common. I've seen a lot of new people ask a lot of questions, get a lot of good advice and then just do what they wanted to do anyway.

I've been reading / collecting comics for a long time, but I wouldn't buy an expensive book over the internet unless it was slabbed and even then only from a person / dealer I knew.
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People here have said they have been victims of fraud.

Not really something I'd want to do to someone else, let alone happen to me or any friend of mine.

Important topic?


Agree. People dive into this hobby like I've never seen. If it helps someone, how can it be a bad thing?
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People here have said they have been victims of fraud.

Not really something I'd want to do to someone else, let alone happen to me or any friend of mine.

Important topic?


Agree. People dive into this hobby like I've never seen. If it helps someone, how can it be a bad thing?


Due to the style of this board I doubt it will help much unless it's stickied.
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