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Originally Posted by xkonk
Cycling back around to collectorscomics, I just got a grade back on a book I bought from them. It was listed as a 9.6, my amateur grading (once it was in my hands) had it somewhere in a 8.5 to 9.2, and CBCS has it a 9.0.

I'll get another order back in a few weeks that has 3 of their books. We'll see if they were optimistically graded too.

Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids
Btw, what were the books?

If you can post up links to the auction sellers, I'd be down to play "guess the stabbed grade"

Originally Posted by Khumbu
There is no way I would grade that at 9.6 in my store. I rarely list a non graded book above 9.4. That book, from what I could see, may not reach that.

Originally Posted by Khumbu
There is no way I would grade that at 9.6 in my store. I rarely list a non graded book above 9.4. That book, from what I could see, may not reach that.

Originally Posted by xkonk
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Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids
Btw, what were the books?

If you can post up links to the auction sellers, I'd be down to play "guess the stabbed grade"

Here's the one I just got back. I bought the other ones in the fall and my purchase history doesn't give me a link anymore.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Men-133-NEAR-MINT-9-6-NM-MARVEL-1980-1st-Wolverine-solo-cover-/382295729119?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=YwLT9W%252Fdd1sufd%252BIcBwIe54tTRU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Originally Posted by Khumbu
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Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids
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Originally Posted by Khumbu
There is no way I would grade that at 9.6 in my store. I rarely list a non graded book above 9.4. That book, from what I could see, may not reach that.

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Originally Posted by Khumbu
There is no way I would grade that at 9.6 in my store. I rarely list a non graded book above 9.4. That book, from what I could see, may not reach that.

Early 80's X-Men's had high print runs and by the time this particular issue came out, it was not uncommon for books like this to be hoarded i.e. well care for.

So to your point, there are certainly an ample amount of raw 9.6's in the wild.

If I had a solid 9.6 copy of this book, I would sub it for grading, if I listed it raw as a 9.6, I would list it at $79.99 + shipping....but that would be a PITA/long wait more than likely, so I'd shelve it and have it slabbed.

9.6 90 day is $60, 9.2 is $65, 9.4 is $86 and 9.6 is $115. ..9.8 is $290.

Perhaps you misunderstood. I was not disparaging the price, but the grade. I am a conservative grader and would not grade THAT book 9.6 by the scans I could see. I also said that I rarely say that anything raw is over 9.4 unless it looks like this...




Even then I am hesitant

Originally Posted by poka


Doesn’t matter whether he doesn’t take returns. If not as described ebay will force him 99/100 times

Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids
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Originally Posted by Khumbu
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Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids
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Originally Posted by Khumbu
There is no way I would grade that at 9.6 in my store. I rarely list a non graded book above 9.4. That book, from what I could see, may not reach that.

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Originally Posted by Khumbu
There is no way I would grade that at 9.6 in my store. I rarely list a non graded book above 9.4. That book, from what I could see, may not reach that.

Early 80's X-Men's had high print runs and by the time this particular issue came out, it was not uncommon for books like this to be hoarded i.e. well care for.

So to your point, there are certainly an ample amount of raw 9.6's in the wild.

If I had a solid 9.6 copy of this book, I would sub it for grading, if I listed it raw as a 9.6, I would list it at $79.99 + shipping....but that would be a PITA/long wait more than likely, so I'd shelve it and have it slabbed.

9.6 90 day is $60, 9.2 is $65, 9.4 is $86 and 9.6 is $115. ..9.8 is $290.

Perhaps you misunderstood. I was not disparaging the price, but the grade. I am a conservative grader and would not grade THAT book 9.6 by the scans I could see. I also said that I rarely say that anything raw is over 9.4 unless it looks like this...




Even then I am hesitant

No, I understood you just fine.

I definitely would not grade that book as a 9.6...the corner creases which I noted above, disqualify the book from a 9.6 or even a 9.4 , off the bat.

It also looks like there are a few mostly non color breaking spine ticks and light edge fraying around the perimeter of the front and back cover edges.

Considering what I can actually see and make out from the blurry and angled pictures, I would agree with CBCS's grade at 9.0.

That said, my 9.0 grade is without actually looking at scans, the seller did not provide them.

He posted up less than clear pictures. My point was that was how that seller seems to market his books; which is misleading in itself.

The majority of collectors are not experienced graders, which dealers who have been in this hobby for years, are well aware of.

Opting to provide pictures instead of front and back cover scans, is IMHO, a decision made by some sellers. This is done in order to take advantage of the average collector, who does not have the eye to grade books with reliable accuracy.

Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids

Do you mind posting up the eBay item #?

I'm curious to see how he could ever have graded a book with a detached cover as a 6.0. That would surprise me, his grading was dead on, IME.

Originally Posted by Watcher
but theres no staple at all at the bottom? and the pic he offered looks like the top staple is already detached from cover. He had to know it wasn't a 6.0 . I would not have assumed the staples were detached from pic (even though I couldn't see any staples ) if he listed as a 6.0. Glad he took it back.

Originally Posted by poka
Think the highest grade with detached cover is 4.0 but could be wrong.