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Ummm.... You do realize the outrageous amount of fraud in involved with the Autograph Markets of any hobby sector? That's the VERY reason these Third Party Graders have taken advantage of sucking fee's out of collectors for their verification services.

"All consumers know it's real"? Are you Kidding me? I don't believe ANY consumers are that gullible.


Yes I understand the grandiosity of fraud. Here are my points with this particular comic:
1. Certificate of Authenticity from Midtown - pretty darn legit. I live in the NY area and have gone to the Midtown signings. They are as legit as can be when accompanied by a COA.
When I combine all these probabilities - yea.... all consumers know this particular comic with this particular signature is real.


I can easily make these. LOL .



Who couldn't?
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I'm out, you guys are way off topic.

Are you new to comic book forums? Off topic is like gold here . Any interesting discussion always has some serious off topic to it. Some of the very best discussions started out as something else


No, I'm not new. Normally it doesn't bother me... except when I'm really interested in the actual topic and it goes way south. Then it's bothersome. If people want to go off on their own weird topic for a lengthy amount of time, start another thread. Otherwise, I think it's kind of rude to the person that started this thread looking for answers and more information on a particular issue. Just my opinion.
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Well, as a matter of governance, socialism is a system that doesn’t recognize private property, be it physical or intellectual. It can’t. In order to equitably redistribute resources to the people, you first have to take it from them. You have no right to what you produce or what you earn. All of your money, your work, even your family, technically belongs to the state because only the state – enter the ruling class i.e politicians – can equitably distribute it. They know what’s fair, and if you disagree or fail to toe the line you will be shouted down because you’re just greedy and bigoted, and have privilege, oh and on top of that, you hate poor people. You're also a fascist, even though that’s kind of the same thing as socialism. Doesn’t matter, fascist pig!

Police and fire departments (for the most part) are a local system, which is highly consistent with liberty and federalism. It works best when locals are making their own decisions for their own unique conditions – ie, self-governance as opposed to central planners. Another way to rationalize it is; as a citizen in America, you are one of about 320 million people. One vote in over three hundred million. In terms of representation, your vote is very, very insignificant. So why on earth would you want to relinquish important decisions – the very ones that directly affect your life? – to an inherently centralized government that you have such little say in? Do you want a team of faceless bureaucrats 25 states over deciding what kind of fire engines your town needs? Or what kind of healthcare you should have? The type of Policing and tactics used in such? What kind of car you should drive? How your kid’s school is going to be run? Hell no! You want those decisions to be made by you. If they must be made by government, you want them discussed 1 mile from your house at a table made up of your friends and neighbors, and fellow citizens, so just in case "they" do something stupid, you have direct access to them, and the idiocy enabled by those in charge!


Oh, and yes Iron Man Comic Books are always the primary subject!


Well Stated Sir
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I'm out, you guys are way off topic.

Are you new to comic book forums? Off topic is like gold here . Any interesting discussion always has some serious off topic to it. Some of the very best discussions started out as something else


No, I'm not new. Normally it doesn't bother me... except when I'm really interested in the actual topic and it goes way south. Then it's bothersome. If people want to go off on their own weird topic for a lengthy amount of time, start another thread. Otherwise, I think it's kind of rude to the person that started this thread looking for answers and more information on a particular issue. Just my opinion.


In fairness, I think the OP's question has been well answered. Probably not what he/she wanted to hear, but answered in full
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To the original poster's question; @Tony yes, send it in for VSP and grading. It will result in something you can live with.
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Too many people, here and elsewhere, cannot deal with their positions being challenged, and run to the authorities to complain while simultaneously trying to silence and/or discredit the person(s) challenging them; the authorities comply by taking the easiest solution: silencing the part(y)(ies) about which the complaints are loudest. "Problem solved."

That's not justice. That's not civil debate. That's not rational argumentation.

That's mob rule.

But we digress...
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it! IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
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Best popcorn gif ever. Ima stealing this one
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Today's Challenge..IF you choose to accept..

Lets make some MIDTOWN COAS


@Gabriel85301 Simple, google 'Midtown Comics autograph certificate' there are tones of useable images e.g.:


I've got tons of Midtown signed books, all put away.
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Well, as a matter of governance, socialism is a system that doesn’t recognize private property, be it physical or intellectual. It can’t. In order to equitably redistribute resources to the people, you first have to take it from them. You have no right to what you produce or what you earn. All of your money, your work, even your family, technically belongs to the state because only the state – enter the ruling class i.e politicians – can equitably distribute it. They know what’s fair, and if you disagree or fail to toe the line you will be shouted down because you’re just greedy and bigoted, and have privilege, oh and on top of that, you hate poor people. You're also a fascist, even though that’s kind of the same thing as socialism. Doesn’t matter, fascist pig!

Police and fire departments (for the most part) are a local system, which is highly consistent with liberty and federalism. It works best when locals are making their own decisions for their own unique conditions – ie, self-governance as opposed to central planners. Another way to rationalize it is; as a citizen in America, you are one of about 320 million people. One vote in over three hundred million. In terms of representation, your vote is very, very insignificant. So why on earth would you want to relinquish important decisions – the very ones that directly affect your life? – to an inherently centralized government that you have such little say in? Do you want a team of faceless bureaucrats 25 states over deciding what kind of fire engines your town needs? Or what kind of healthcare you should have? The type of Policing and tactics used in such? What kind of car you should drive? How your kid’s school is going to be run? Hell no! You want those decisions to be made by you. If they must be made by government, you want them discussed 1 mile from your house at a table made up of your friends and neighbors, and fellow citizens, so just in case "they" do something stupid, you have direct access to them, and the idiocy enabled by those in charge!


Oh, and yes Iron Man Comic Books are always the primary subject!


Well Stated Sir



Thank you, Big I try, I really do
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I will never understand why anyone would want someone smearing their shitty signature all over the cover of a book 😒 Essentially destroying the purity of the cover and overall condition of said book!

It’s baffling to me on so many levels 😡


What's baffling? People like signatures from their favorite creators. You don't have to prefer it to a clean cover but not being able to understand it just implies you're a solipsist which would explain the next part:

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Well, as a matter of governance, socialism is a system...


You've clearly not read anything from a socialist, or any other serious leftist so just stop right there and don't embarrass yourself further. I also doubt seriously you've even taken the time to read something of actual merit within your own spectrum of belief. If there's one thing that defines the right these days it's laziness and fear of the 'other.'
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What does the label say in all caps? "? ? ON COVER IN MARKER" is all I can make out of it.
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I will never understand why anyone would want someone smearing their shitty signature all over the cover of a book 😒 Essentially destroying the purity of the cover and overall condition of said book!

It’s baffling to me on so many levels 😡


What's baffling? People like signatures from their favorite creators. You don't have to prefer it to a clean cover but not being able to understand it just implies you're a solipsist which would explain the next part:

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Well, as a matter of governance, socialism is a system...


You've clearly not read anything from a socialist, or any other serious leftist so just stop right there and don't embarrass yourself further. I also doubt seriously you've even taken the time to read something of actual merit within your own spectrum of belief. If there's one thing that defines the right these days it's laziness and fear of the 'other.'


Hmmmm, is that so genius 🤔 please, elucidate me as to the merits of Socialism AND Communism (which are brothers) as where exactly I’m wrong 🙄

You leftists are an amusing bunch. Fanciful on facts and reality, yet bereft and ignorant of such. Where; I’ll ask you once, has either political system worked? I. E. Been beneficial to the POPULACE and society long term? 🧐 where? I’ll wait for your drivel, my obvious superior 😒
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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I often wonder at what point in a thread that things went wrong and become something they never were intended to be; or remotely related to the original post.
I'll just blame it on Bryan K. Vaughn. It's all his fault
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I often wonder at what point in a thread that things went wrong and become something they never were intended to be; or remotely related to the original post.
I'll just blame it on Bryan K. Vaughn. It's all his fault


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I will never understand why anyone would want someone smearing their shitty signature all over the cover of a book 😒 Essentially destroying the purity of the cover and overall condition of said book!

It’s baffling to me on so many levels 😡


What's baffling? People like signatures from their favorite creators. You don't have to prefer it to a clean cover but not being able to understand it just implies you're a solipsist which would explain the next part:

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Well, as a matter of governance, socialism is a system...


You've clearly not read anything from a socialist, or any other serious leftist so just stop right there and don't embarrass yourself further. I also doubt seriously you've even taken the time to read something of actual merit within your own spectrum of belief. If there's one thing that defines the right these days it's laziness and fear of the 'other.'


Hmmmm, is that so genius 🤔 please, elucidate me as to the merits of Socialism AND communism (which are brothers) as where exactly I’m wrong 🙄 😒


Why would I bother spoon feeding you a lesson you're clearly not interested in? It's the exact definition of laziness I accused you of.

But do feel free to impress me with all the leftist figureheads you actually invested the time to read and understand that led to the stupidity that was your diatribe. Or hell - like I said - I'll even accept the figureheads you've read in your own spectrum of belief. Your views are as credible as the effort you put into them - and right now that's none.

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You leftists are an amusing bunch. Bare on facts and reality, yet bereft and ignorant of such. Where; I’ll ask you once, has either political system worked? I. E. Been beneficial to the POPULACE and society long term? 🧐 where, I’ll wait my obvious superior 😒


The fact you have to ask this question exposes your complete ignorance (aside from the laziness I already accused you of) of the contributions of the left throughout history. But you're in Arizona where you're about to vote for a racist sheriff (that faked his own assassination attempt by framing a 18yr old kid in order to win re-election) to the Senate so I shouldn't be surprised.
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What does the label say in all caps? "? ? ON COVER IN MARKER" is all I can make out of it.


"Name Written"
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I will never understand why anyone would want someone smearing their shitty signature all over the cover of a book 😒 Essentially destroying the purity of the cover and overall condition of said book!

It’s baffling to me on so many levels 😡


What's baffling? People like signatures from their favorite creators. You don't have to prefer it to a clean cover but not being able to understand it just implies you're a solipsist which would explain the next part:

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Originally Posted by VillageIdiot
Well, as a matter of governance, socialism is a system...


You've clearly not read anything from a socialist, or any other serious leftist so just stop right there and don't embarrass yourself further. I also doubt seriously you've even taken the time to read something of actual merit within your own spectrum of belief. If there's one thing that defines the right these days it's laziness and fear of the 'other.'


Hmmmm, is that so genius 🤔 please, elucidate me as to the merits of Socialism AND communism (which are brothers) as where exactly I’m wrong 🙄 😒


Why would I bother spoon feeding you a lesson you're clearly not interested in? It's the exact definition of laziness I accused you of.

But do feel free to impress me with all the leftist figureheads you actually invested the time to read and understand that led to the stupidity that was your diatribe. Or hell - like I said - I'll even accept the figureheads you've read in your own spectrum of belief. Your views are as credible as the effort you put into them - and right now that's none.

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You leftists are an amusing bunch. Bare on facts and reality, yet bereft and ignorant of such. Where; I’ll ask you once, has either political system worked? I. E. Been beneficial to the POPULACE and society long term? 🧐 where, I’ll wait my obvious superior 😒


The fact you have to ask this question exposes your complete ignorance (aside from the laziness I already accused you of) of the contributions of the left throughout history. But you're in Arizona where you're about to vote for a racist sheriff (that faked his own assassination attempt by framing a 18yr old kid in order to win re-election) to the Senate so I shouldn't be surprised.



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I often wonder at what point in a thread that things went wrong and become something they never were intended to be; or remotely related to the original post.





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You have an uncanny ability to put me to sleep.
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it! IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
@VillageIdiot @Pixx_L

Ya know, I'm really tempted to just let this go. I mean I come to this forum and the one across the street to get away politics and the issues of the day. Just talk comics. Things like "Black Lightning premiere was awesome".

But given my degree is in Poly Sci - this is both my catnip and Kryptonite...
IMHO there is certain amount of straw man arguing going on here. No debate of political ideologies is ever going to be...fair or logical.. Without a clear understanding of where people are coming from. And name caling is beneath educated peoples.

It APPEARS Villagidiot approaches the argument from right-libertarian ideology. I mention this because both Socialism and libertarianism have a VAST range of beliefs, ideologies and positions. Villageidiot seems to be arguing against the "non-market" classical form of socialism. The version that is in fact similar to communism. And that is also similar to the Left Libertarian, or Libertarian socialists flavor of Libertarianism. BOTH share a common view of eliminating capitalism and the private ownership of the means of production. For somewhat different reasons.

Villageidiot is arguing against a philosophy that no one has expressed. It should be clear to those that know the difference - from what I have said - that I have been discussing the most popular, current flavor of socialism. Market based socialism, often referred to as Democratic Socialism or the Nordic/Scandanavian models of socialism. I believe based on posts that is probably the flavor of socialism PixxL speaks of as well. It is a mixed economy view. Private ownership of property is encouraged. Businesses are more regulated but privately owned. Labor unions are encouraged and "welfare benefits" generally more generous. The redistribution of wealth is more a priority and the equality of all people is prioritized.

Left Libertarianism isn't popular in the USA. Neither is non-market Socialism. We should quit name calling and arguing about positions no one likely holds.

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I've been married for over 30 years. My debates with my wife are always on the same topic. Let me just say that the endings are always happy
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Villageidiot is arguing against a philosophy that no one has expressed.

And doesn't exist - thus his straw man caricature. You're also being far too generous with what you think he believes - as if it's coherent and informed (and not worse than you imagine).

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We should quit...arguing about positions no one likely holds.


Questioning posturing ignorance is a worthwhile & necessary pursuit these days - even if I'd rather be doing other things.
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The redistribution of wealth is more a priority and the equality of all people is prioritized.



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If only Have ever had to replace an airbag? A tiny scratch in the bumper that isn't worth fixing but a grand to replace the airbag that needlessly deployed LOL. At least this way you get popcorn!
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