I'm sure it's a temporary but, thoughts?5042
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I've never used that certification field when searching, but that's very helpful if you're searching for something specific. Thanks for the tip, @shrewbeer.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by 00slimOh yes, explore the ebay filters! They are wonderful things, you can get uber specific  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Laws that have outlived their usefulness or relevance should be reviewed. Of course, that's not the case here, obviously. There is a reason this rule exists, and it's a good reason. If someone doesn't recognize that keyword spamming HURTS EVERYONE on eBay, by frustrating buyers and driving them elsewhere, what will convince them? It is NOT a "harmless" practice. It means fewer eyeballs on my stuff, your stuff, and everyone else's stuff. People who don't like the rules often point to obselete, irrelevant laws to "demonstrate" the "futility" of following the laws. It really just boils down to "no one tells me what to do", which afflicts all of humanity. As far as "both right and both wrong", I merely point back to the robbing your house example. If I need to feed my starving children, is it wrong to rob your house? The answer is still yes, and will always be yes. I am not "right" simply because I am in need. Anyone can justify anything. Anything! Theft, murder, rape, genocide...it can all be justified. "Screw you, I can do what I want, how DARE you make an issue of it!" Look at the hostility displayed by some for arguing FOR law and order. The "bad guy" is the one defending a good rule...? People reveal their character in interesting ways. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by 00slim And if sellers don't use the certification field...? Filters don't help you when things you might want are filtered OUT. |
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| I haven't used the filter because I want to see both CGC & CBCS listings. It's there for those who care. For that, it's a nice option. And equating this situation to robbery, even in hyperbole, is just absurd. Let's just discontinue the conversation, Doc. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by 00slim Not even remotely. Do you know why...? Because when you keyword spam, and buyers get frustrated having to wade through piles of crap that isn't what they're looking for, they go elsewhere. When they go elsewhere, that means they're not looking at stuff on eBay. That means you've robbed sellers...including yourself...of the potential opportunity to sell something to someone. "It's harmless!" you justify. No, it's not. Neither is robbing your house, regardless of the justification. Anyone can justify anything, which was the point of the illustration. Quote: Originally Posted by 00slim Fine with me. |
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| I think we need a another group of individuals on here other than the ones originally mentioned in another thread - those that belly-ache and whine over every little inconvenience in their life - very revealing indeed | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Dismiss, diminish, discredit. Don't consider the merits of the argument. Attack the person. "Argumentum ad hominem." |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Someone wake me when you're done |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 If you have a valid argument to make, make it. If you don't have a valid argument to make, attacking the person only adds to the hostility. Is that your goal? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown I did |
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Quote:Originally Posted by 00slim You can select both CGC, CBCS, and raws, and just filter out all PGX books. Or any combination of the four  |
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| I think I'll go take a nap; not be awake. Or perhaps I'll go for a run; not a walk Or maybe even turn on the light; not leave it on. I may even write on this Forum; not CGC My gosh... I just realized... I'm cluttering up this forum!!! how horrific |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Yup. Dismiss, discredit, diminish. "You can't tell ME what to do!!" I'm fine with it. If it means people stop doing it, great. I'm cool with bearing the brunt of scorn for arguing in defense of order. |
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| Sorry.. no ones here. I'm not awake | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 That would explain things... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Finally. |
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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Quote:Originally Posted by 50AE_DE Apologies if you felt too much. I did not and do not appreciate being lumped into the "everyone" category under "hurts everyone". |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 It was too much the second you decided to categorize defending order as "belly-aching and whining" about an "inconvenience." And you did so because someone dared to stand up for the rule of law, which offended you. That's not reasoned, rational debate. That's grade school taunting. For the reasons I've explained, multiple times, keyword spamming hurts everyone on eBay. What possible argument do you have that says otherwise? I'm willing to listen. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Sure. - "not cgc" does not hurt me. I'm part of everyone as well as the other folks who expressed they have no issue. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 It doesn't "hurt" me either but I find it very frustrating to have to weed through those listings. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 1. Keyword spamming clutters up eBay. 2. Cluttered eBay frustrates potential buyers. 3. Frustrated buyers go elsewhere to not be frustrated. 4. Sellers who have fewer buyers have fewer sales. 5. Fewer sales means less income, which hurts sellers. 6. Sellers who have enough fewer sales stop selling altogether. 7. Sellers who stop selling altogether means fewer options to choose from, which hurts buyers, because competition is what makes prices better. 8. Fewer options to choose from means buyers have even less incentive to come to eBay, which just repeats the cycle...but hey, at least there won't be as much keyword spamming! Is it the greatest problem facing eBay buyers and sellers? Of course not. Not by a long shot. But is it a problem that is easily solved simply by everyone choosing to play fairly? Hell yes. Just because you don't see the bigger picture does not mean that it doesn't exist. "You're making a big deal out of nothing!!" Am I? Or is it the ones saying "It's not a big deal!!" the ones making it a big deal...? If it's not a big deal...why even bother responding? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by 50AE_DE I absolutely accept that you've personalized your thoughts and opinion. Seriously I do. Thank you That's all I ask. Others,however, can't seem to avoid grouping my life concerns with their own personal frustration. That's where I draw a line |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 You're still missing the point. If you're not frustrated by keyword spamming, kudos for you! That's not the point. The point is that you're NOT the only buyer on eBay, and you cannot impose your "lack of frustration" on everyone else This isn't theory, this isn't supposition. eBay's had this position for many years, because they recognize that it is fact: buyers AS A WHOLE get frustrated by listings clogged up by keyword spamming. It's WONDERFUL that it doesn't bother you...and if you could magically wave a wand and make it bother no one, I'd say keyword spam away! But you cannot, and therefore don't have the ability to speak for every other buyer and their frustration level. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Actually youre missing the point - but that's not uncommon with repetitious pontification |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 "Argumentum ad hominem" is not a valid form of debate. It's grade school taunting. If I'm missing the point, why not explain it for everyone else, so others can learn? That's the point of discussion, after all. When I say "keyword spamming hurts everyone", I'm NOT referring to someone's frustration level, which is where you went off track. I'm referring to the RESULTS of that CORPORATE frustration. See point #7 in post #74 in this thread. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown You have an uncanny ability to put me to sleep. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Expressions of contempt don't make your argument more valid. |
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