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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| This is my opinion on PGX: Pro's: -Fast TAT (1 month at the most for standard service) -Will verify a signature on almost anything (see below) -Cheapest option for grading -I've had no problem selling my PGX books for a profit. Meh: -Grading is hit or miss. But for example I had a Defenders #1 PGX 9.0, I submitted it to CBCS and got back same, 9.0. I tried to post picture before but it got removed so just believe me, k. -Supporting a small business out of someone's garage? LOL  Con's: -Hard to trust the verified signatures (see above) -I've sent PGX books to CGC and CBCS and got back 2 grades lower. For example. Silver Surfer #1 PGX 9.0 came back CBCS 7.0 -Has had problems around 5 years ago with missing trimming and restoration on books. I haven't heard about any problems recently. |
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| I have many PGX graded books. But I have never purchased one already graded by them. All of mine were submitted by me. And I will not be sending them any more to grade. But I could see me buying a PGX graded book under certain circumstances. Like maybe a Werewolf By Night #32 in PGX 9.4 for $500.00 No matter what some here say, I think ALL of us would buy the right book at the right price, in a PGX slab. Never say never. |
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| I used to use PGX for the simple reason that I live near him and we were one of the stores that supported him in Oregon. Then I offered him first shot at the biggest collection of books I had ever seen. Over 5,000 books with multiple copies of virtually every Bronze age key you can think of. Tomb of Dracula 10 x 10, Amazing Spider-Man 129 x 5, House of Secrets 92 x 10, X-Men 94 and Giant Size #1 multiples, 2 full runs of Conan in NM, it was beautiful. He comes in and offers me and the person I was selling it for $500 and insisted that the books were not worth much. Treated me like an ignoramus. I was able to parcel the books of for the lady to other people and get some myself, but after that it was CGC. | ||
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| Are you saying that the owner of PGX also buys collections? I hope no other company does anything like that. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak Really not surprised. You should read some of the stories across the street. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Khumbu Thanks for that story. Never met the guy or guys who run pgx. |
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| Yeah, he did 5 years ago | ||
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak I bought a PGX 7.0 WWBN 32 at auction. When I realized when it was graded by them instead of a real grading company I looked the scans over closely and determined that it was a 5.5 at best. While the auction company wouldn't let me out of the sale they offered to re-sell it without commission. I added about $10-15 to the price I paid and made about 32 cents after credit card fees. |
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| @conditionfreak I can tell you without a doubt I will never purchase or consider purchasing any book PGX has graded. After how he treated some of the folks that were trying to help him out and iron out his mistakes I can say I definitely will never do anything that would encourage anyone to use or continue using that crook. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak At the risk of me sounding stupid, can you please tell me why we don't want graders also being collectors? I can understand why we wouldn't want them grading their own books but why shouldn't they be collectors as well? |
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| Oh, CGG? LOL | ||
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| Well, there are a lot of ways "games" could be played to maximize profits of personal sales in their favor. And generally people do not buy collections just for their own collection. Let me put it this way. Are you familiar with Insider Trading when referring to the stock market? You say you understand why they should not grade their own books. Do you understand that when money is involved, humans find ways to get it. How easy would it be for a grader to purchase a collection, submit books in the name of a friend or relative, and recognize their own book when it came through the grading process? The difference of one grade on some books is a LOT of money. Let your imagination run with this. Any grading company worth trusting, should have in place rules against graders buying collections, IMO. Unless said books are already graded by that same company. But even then...... When it comes to money, trust no one 100%. For some reason people love that stuff......go figure. |
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 You think I'm joking, I'm not.
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| Way to much talk on PGX. It's simple buy PGX cheap. Crack it, rest it resubmit. | ||
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak OK, I understand that.....avoid the appearance or even potential appearance of impropriety. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC There is nothing wrong grading your own books and being a collector. However, when you tell a person who don’t know about comics that their collection is not worth much knowing that in fact it is - if not fraud then awful close and definitely not the way to earn a good reputation. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka Grading your own books is a conflict of interest, and should never be tolerated by anyone. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/conflict-of-interest.asp |
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| I own one PGX book (sort of, CGG) and for forum rules reasons can't post a picture, but will advise anyone to check out my profile pic for a little hint. It was submitted by a guy in Texas in 2004 who was mad about the grade and decided to sell it. His loss, my gain. That label did not deter me at all. But that was before it was PGX or had any integrity issues, as far as I know. Had to change avatar image (doh!). It was an AF 15. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Agreed! and I suppose appearances are everything when integrity is so key to your business. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak As far as I know ( and please, someone correct me if I'm wrong or things have changed ) graders are allowed to buy and collect comics for themselves and I assume that would mean collections as well. What they are not allowed to do is get those comics graded and they are not allowed to sell books as a "side hustle" either raw or graded. |
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 I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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| ive been out of comic collecting for 25 years or so and I'm amazed by how much things have changed. I've had books graded by cbcs and cgc and I've noticed that the old school of grading has been thrown out and sure seems like the grades of the books have been too strict. it seems like pgx is still grading from the old school. when you go and read the bylaws of each grade, they seem to stick with that system. cbcs and cgc seem to be competing on who can grade more strict. I've bought books that are graded a 3.5 with a beautiful cover with very little wear. since it was graded so low, got a great deal on it. all i'm saying is if a book is 7.0, let it be a 7.0. I have not submitted any book to pgx, but I have bought books graded by them, depending on the book and price. I would buy a cbcs or cgc over a pgx book graded the same because it would definitely be a better book. | ||
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| @Batman66 Welcome back to collecting. Things haven't moved all that far, Ebay has around 2 million books posted for sale with the vast majority of them being over "old school" graded and or combined with over valued. Thats why they sit unsold. At least collectors have more purchasing options now. |
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
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| yeah, getting books back then was all about the green sheet and swap meets. I've spent more money on comics this last year than i have 20 years before. getting ahold of some of the books that i had is reallllllll expensive. but its amazing to see the books for sale on ebay and the auction houses | ||
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| There was a time, back in the late 90's, when you could peruse every comic listed on eBay, every night... Those were the days... |
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| During the original early eBay years you had to list a 7 day auction. There was no fixed price marketplace. | ||
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