Adam Hughes and the $1000 sketch4753
I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. | drchaos private msg quote post Address this user | |
What did flipper ever do to make Adam so mad at him? |
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COLLECTOR | Stu private msg quote post Address this user | |
Just pick up your pencil and draw your own! That’s a ridiculous price for a sketch. It’s bad enough that some artists are charging $100 and above for a signature these days. | ||
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COLLECTOR | JLS_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
For $2K I want a detailed full color, wrap-around spread | ||
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COLLECTOR | JLS_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke This guy (at the link) ruins it for us. You can tell he's not really a fan or he would've at least spelled "Zatanna" correctly. |
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COLLECTOR | shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
There's a BIG difference in asking price versus sold value. Why do people not understand that... especially professional artists | ||
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If I could, I would. I swear. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
And it's not even a sketch of The Walking Dead or Rick & Morty. Pft. | ||
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
I never really cared for Adam or his husband, really. Always the same sideways profile sketch with a nose profile shot. Lame. Once we buy something from a creator, it makes no difference to them if we sell it in 10 years, 1 year, 6 months, or 1 week. It's our property now. We bought it. Contract is resolved once you hit the door. |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. | drchaos private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer This! Not only do we not know what the seller paid for the sketch (he could have paid $1,200 - $2,500 if he is not the person that had Hughes draw the sketch) but what the sketch will ultimately sell for. The seller is taking the risk and may ultimately lose money when the book is sold while Adam is free to spend the $1,000 that he was given for the sketch in good faith. Let's say that the person who hired Adam does make $2,000. What has Adam really lost? Unless Adam has an MBA, a degree in marketing, or 20 years of sales experience what makes him think he would be so good at selling his works for higher prices instead of doing what he does best (produce fine works of art)? Comic books stores and producers make money off of his work every day but God forbid that some regular Joe tries to make a few bucks on eBay. |
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Collector | Scorpion private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos agreed, have to say the same, one you buy something it your do what you want with it. why does ever one cry when some sell something for more then its worth, no one is point a gun at some one to buy it at that price, |
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Collector | 00slim private msg quote post Address this user | |
What needs to happen is, people have to refuse to pay exorbitant prices for a sketch. Let him sit at his booth with nothing to do. I'd pay $1,000 for a published piece of original art (probably a cover) but never for a sketch. |
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COLLECTOR | shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
"drive out the flippers" That says it all right there. They are against people turning profit on his art, and think only collectors who are keeping it forever should be buying it. Either they think their shit doesn't stink, or they are making an attempt to keep the industry bubble from growing. I'm not sure which. It may be both. |
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Collector | NoahSult private msg quote post Address this user | |
If you find me at a show and Adam is there come to my table and I will do you a sketch for a small portion of his fee and won’t berate you if you want to resell it! | ||
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Collector | FrankCastle129 private msg quote post Address this user | |
If they really want to drive out the flippers do another similar sketch and list it on the same site for $1000 so nobody would buy the one for $3000 Adam keeps working and the flipper doesn't make money. But in reality how many people are willing to buy a sketch for $1000 | ||
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Collector | 00slim private msg quote post Address this user | |
Adam doesn't seem to like that his asking price isn't the absolute ceiling. "I could make this much money"?! The real people he's punishing are his fans. |
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Collector | FrankCastle129 private msg quote post Address this user | |
It's probably Adam listing under a different name, so he can raise his rates and try to make a bad name for flippers. | ||
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. | drchaos private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 00slim He may not realize it but he is also punishing himself. When the "flippers" stop buying his books and they are nowhere to be found on eBay other collectors "the true fans (LOL!)" will forget about him and won't buy his books either. |
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If I could, I would. I swear. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
The seller is Mike Burkey of RomitaMan original art out of Ohio who has been selling original art for years. I doubt very seriously that he stood in line from an AH! commission. He probably received it as trade in some other deal and is just trying to see what he can get out it. I would hardly call it a flip. | ||
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Collector | Lonestar private msg quote post Address this user | |
Adam Hughes should hope that this commission sketch actually sells for the full amount. This will make more people want to pay his already high fees even more. He should use this as marketing as a reason to get an Adam Hughes sketch. | ||
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Collector | jrs private msg quote post Address this user | |
It seems that he set his price at a level he thought was reasonable, and now feels that if someone else is able to capitalize on his artwork for multiples of that, he might as well raise the price himself. Misguided? Likely so. But in the end, who cares? Just don't buy it. Kind of like exorbitantly priced signatures. | ||
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
We have the right to sell our belongings whenever we see fit to. What if there is a family emergency? An unplanned surgery? Car accident? Money to pay for an unexpected debt? Adam Hughes is a whiner. And why is the term "flipper" so derogatory? Vanilla Ice does it. Richard Rawlings does it. Dennis Collins does it. And sometimes, it's just called second income stream for a reason. We do have other jobs, too. So what! Nonsense! |
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Collector | MarcJ private msg quote post Address this user | |
No artist is going to prevent flipping. Even if they sell the art themselves directly, there is nothing to stop someone from buying said art and attempting to resell it for a higher price. The only way to prevent flipping is to not do any sketches which in turn will hurt the artist. With that said, this goes right along with my thoughts on signatures. The creators need to just worry about what they do best and get out of everyone else's business. If Mr. Hughes wants to charge $1000 for a sketch like the one pictured, go for it. But don't be upset if nobody asks for one and especially don't be upset if someone pays you the $1000 and then turns around and *tries* to sell it for three times that amount. Why in the world would I pay $3000 for that sketch when apparently I could pay Mr. Hughes $1000 and get pretty much the exact sketch except different enough that I would have the only one. Hell, Mr. Hughes should sell that type of sketch for $300 and then nobody would want to pay a markup when they can get their very on version for less. Which begs the question...why would anyone ever pay a markup for sketches they can get done for much cheaper from an artist that is still alive and doing commissions???? Baffling.....pure baffling.. |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. | kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
Why do I go buy something at FYE and sell it for 3 times the cost on ebay? People often don't know you can just go buy it directly at the originating websites. You can buy J Scott Campbell signed books direct from his website. Most don't know this, so they buy them on ebay because that's all they know to do. |
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COLLECTOR | shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke I think the theory behind it is that "flippers" contribute to inflated prices, and in turn a future crash. If that's the case, AH! is more guilty than the flippers for driving up costs I sell a lot of stuff, but I buy more than I sell. I need that second income stream to help support my comic book addiction |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. | drchaos private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Same here but without a regular job that income stream is helping me pay my rent as well. |
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Collector | Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user | |
theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EifnM3pRLdQ | ||
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Collector | Artu private msg quote post Address this user | |
Why is Mr Hughes not annoyed with the fact the comics stores charged 50x the price value of his work for Thor 700??? | ||
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. | drchaos private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Artu Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! |
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Collector | Deadpoolica private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Preach brother |
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