Adam Hughes and the $1000 sketch | CBCS Comics

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No aspect of this discussion really stirs me emotionally or mentally one way or another. Artists price their work at whatever price they chose. I and other would be fans/customers can buy, pass or offer less.

The Zatanna sketch doesn't much impress me and I'd wouldn't be interested in at at $1K... But then art and what you like is a personal thing .

Romitaman - along with as near as I can tell all of the big comic art dealers prices are all over inflated. I'm no expert on original art, I have dozen or so pieces. But it appears to me that all the dealers and many collectors selling price their stuff very high - with an expectation that a lot of deals will actually be a little bit of cash and a whole lot of trade. It's hard to figure out what comic art is really worth in cash. Which is why almost all of my art I have bought at auction.

I mostly agree with this. I will always side with the artist in these situations. They can charge whatever they want, for whatever reason they want and people will either buy it or they won’t and the artist can / will adjust accordingly.

He doesn't really care about the fans. He cares about the amount of money he can sell a sketch for... the bottom line. That's quite evident.

For all we know he may derive a good amount of his income that way so I won’t hold it against him.

I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. 55.88K	55.88K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by IronMan No aspect of this discussion really stirs me emotionally or mentally one way or another. Artists price their work at whatever price they chose. I and other would be fans/customers can buy, pass or offer less. The Zatanna sketch doesn't much impress me and I'd wouldn't be interested in at at $1K... But then art and what you like is a personal thing . Romitaman - along with as near as I can tell all of the big comic art dealers prices are all over inflated. I'm no expert on original art, I have dozen or so pieces. But it appears to me that all the dealers and many collectors selling price their stuff very high - with an expectation that a lot of deals will actually be a little bit of cash and a whole lot of trade. It's hard to figure out what comic art is really worth in cash. Which is why almost all of my art I have bought at auction. I mostly agree with this. I will always side with the artist in these situations. They can charge whatever they want, for whatever reason they want and people will either buy it or they won’t and the artist can / will adjust accordingly. He doesn't really care about the fans. He cares about the amount of money he can sell a sketch for... the bottom line. That's quite evident. For all we know he may derive a good amount of his income that way so I won’t hold it against him. He should be more like Dale Keown. He appreciates his fans and is ALWAYS selling sketches.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Going back to his original statement, I think he's just making sure he's telling all his facebook followers that he is going to have to raise his prices based on what he has observed; and please do not complain about that. I view this as informational. It seems as if he received complaints from followers when he raised prices to $1K. He doesn't have to. He chooses to. There's a gulf of difference between the two. "Have to" is weasel language (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/weasel%20word); the same type of language customer service reps use to placate angry customers: appealing to anonymous authority. "I would love to refund that charge you claim isn't legitimate, but I have to follow policy. I'm sure you understand." No one is forcing him to raise his prices. He chooses to, because he thinks the people reselling (or trying to resell) his work don't deserve the money he thinks they're getting. He spells it out in his post. Why should his customers not complain about it...? How will he know there's a problem, if no one says anything...? How will he know the extent of the problem, if people don't complain about it...?
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! 20.19K	20.19K Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 4
	I had no idea we had mind readers in this group and know what Adam is thinking. Such a waste of talent in a Grading forum
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I had no idea we had mind readers in this group and know what Adam is thinking. Such a waste of talent in a Grading forum It doesn't require mind reading. Adam (or Mrs. Adam) spells it out: "When I have to raise our prices to drive out the flippers..." What are they doing? Raising prices. Who benefits from them raising their prices? They do. Who do they want making the money, them or "the flippers"? Them. Nothing ambiguous about it. Adam (or Mrs. Adam) is plain as day. They can raise their prices to anything they want...but don't insult the collective intelligence of comicsdom by pretending that it's not about the money. Of course it is. It's always been about the money.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! 20.19K	20.19K Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@DocBrown Kiss me
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	Can you imagine the conversations some of these creators have with editors...? "I think I should be paid $10,000 per cover." "Who do you think you are, Jim Steranko? Get back to work...and don't miss your deadline again!"
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	Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by IronMan No aspect of this discussion really stirs me emotionally or mentally one way or another. Artists price their work at whatever price they chose. I and other would be fans/customers can buy, pass or offer less. The Zatanna sketch doesn't much impress me and I'd wouldn't be interested in at at $1K... But then art and what you like is a personal thing . Romitaman - along with as near as I can tell all of the big comic art dealers prices are all over inflated. I'm no expert on original art, I have dozen or so pieces. But it appears to me that all the dealers and many collectors selling price their stuff very high - with an expectation that a lot of deals will actually be a little bit of cash and a whole lot of trade. It's hard to figure out what comic art is really worth in cash. Which is why almost all of my art I have bought at auction. I mostly agree with this. I will always side with the artist in these situations. They can charge whatever they want, for whatever reason they want and people will either buy it or they won’t and the artist can / will adjust accordingly. He doesn't really care about the fans. He cares about the amount of money he can sell a sketch for... the bottom line. That's quite evident. For all we know he may derive a good amount of his income that way so I won’t hold it against him.
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	What is going on in this thread?
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. 27.08K	27.08K kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1

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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. 29.33K	29.33K drchaos private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@kaptainmyke End quote mode
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	Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 @DocBrown Kiss me I would, but my wife wouldn't like me kissing dudes. Is she ok with you kissing dames?
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	Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos What did flipper ever do to make Adam so mad at him? Not funny at all! Flipper committed suicide. Okay. Maybe it was funny. I just wanted you to feel like a jerk for a second. Flipper did commit suicide.
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