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| Hey Everybody, I was just wondering everyone's opinions are about newsstand verses direct edition values? It seems plausible that newsstand survival rarity should impact a books value... And I'm not sure if CBCS takes newsstand or direct edition when grading into consideration or not. But I found an interesting article about it that explains some of the newsstand #s for rarity. Especially in the end of the Newsstand lifecycle of the late 90's. https://rarecomics.wordpress.com/newsstand-vs-direct-edition-comics/ And Mile High comics tacks a very hefty premium on their newsstand book pricing as well. I'm just curious what the experts here at CBCS thought about it? Also, what the heck is Jewel/Newsstand? The Jewel part isn't something I was aware of. Another thing on Mile High I see allot. Thanks for your opinions... |
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| I wrote a very hefty article on the subject in May of this year actually: http://blog.kaptainmyke.com/?p=1168 ok so it's not as hefty as the article you posted LOL but I still agree 100% Newsstands over direct market editions any day of the week for me |
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| I'm assuming the Jewel/Newstand is referring to the ones with a Mark Jewelers insert | ||
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| Probably. I have Amazing Spider-man issues #110-#280 that are ALL Mark Jewelers Inserts that I got from a seller who lived near an army base. Pretty cool, actually! |
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| Great article and grid kaptainmyke! And yeah I wouldn't go crazy but most definitely keep an eye out for them. Especially if like me you frequent flea markets often like I do. |
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| Grades being equal, would this newsstand copy have that much greater value than a Direct Delivery Edition?  mm |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke As an unknowing kid I used to tear these out the minute I got out of the PX. |
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| Given a choice, I'll buy direct market every time. I hate barcodes,especially on the front of a book. |
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It's a pretty 50/50 divided group here on the subject, lol. Paging @shrewbeer to the newsstand thread! | ||
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CEPubDude private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Nice! Great comments... Yeah I just as a preference look for bar codes first. According to Mile High that Man of Steel is $17 Direct, $20 NS in their store. However issue #18 is $36 Direct and $90 NS. No way in heck I'd pay that premium, but searching back issue $1 bins would grab it.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OrbitCityComics +1 almost. I don't "hate" them. But those without a bar code are better looking covers. But I also like rarity over looks, so it is a tough call. I would not pay a premium more than a couple of dollars. UNLESS it was an issue that I have seen many people searching for a newsstand edition. If I was selling two identical issues, but one was a newsstand and one was direct market. I would sell them both for the same price. But I would pay a couple or few dollars more for a ten dollar book that was newsstand and published after year 2000. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak I've been waiting for this moment, you variant hunter you. Jokes. All jokes aside, I purposely search out newsstands newer than 2000 - they're hard to find, costly, and even harder to find in higher grade - my collection is strictly Amazing Spider-Man, there's only about 100 newsstands or so I've yet to find between issues 500-700. When I do find them, I'll have both the direct AND newsstands of each issue between 165-700. Kinda cool? I Guess? |
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| It could just be me but has anyone else noticed that the newsstand editions from the mid 80's to the early 90's seem to fetch slightly higher premiums or be more sought after than the newsstand editions from other eras? | ||
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It's probably because it's harder to maintain a high grade on comics that were sitting on wire racks at grocery stores. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Very true, plus the direct market really took off in the early 90's, right? |
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| @CEPubDude certain direct books that go for under $100-$200 in 9.8 all day long will pop up in newsstand just a few times a year in that grade; and crazies like me will be happy to pay double, if not more. The worst ratio I ever spent was $350 for a book that would go for $60-$80 in direct. CBCS does differentiate between them on the label. It's not that newsstands in general are rare, its that they are extremely rare in HIGH grade. Hope that helps  |
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| CBCS only differentiates up until like 2004 or something though. Not sure why they don't recognize them in years since then. | ||
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer not after the year 2000. as evidenced here:         makes no sense! the ratio of print runs decrease after 2000. you would THINK that CBCS would recognize this rarity on the label. BAH |
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| Then there are direct edition books with bar codes. It would be awesome if all books were virgin covers. Artwork would be even more appreciated by us. Put the issue number real tiny on the top left of the front cover. I mean real tiny. |
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| not only that - but Marvel pulled out of the newsstand race last year, too! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by conditionfreak Those with barcodes and direct edition will say "DIRECT EDITION" over the barcodes. That's what most direct comics are now. Those are not newsstands. |
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| @kaptainmyke I thought it was in 2014 Marvel pulled out? I can't remember the exact year cbcs recognizes to, but I searched it here in the form and it was posted. I've got an ASM 611 9.8 that's newsstand graded by CGC and it's not noted on there either - wrong labels happen sometimes (no 9.8 newsstand on the census, but my book is definitely newsstand - perhaps the only one graded by CGC?). I've got a 606 9.8 newsstand as well! I don't figure there are too many of those. |
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 Found it, 2000 it is. Not sure why it's stuck at that year, doesn't make much sense. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by canadianspiderman You could be right. I'm not sure if it was 2014, 2015, or last year. I only said last year because some books-a-million stores were selling marvel comics according to facebook friends. I been saying CBCS stops at 2000. They should stop at 2015 or 2016. Newsstands are dead. You can only buy comics online or through diamond at a LCS. That's why Newsstand Editions matter. #NEWSSTANDSMATTER |
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| DC hasn't killed newsstands yet have they? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke They shouldn't stop at all, until there are no more newsstands. It makes zero sense, and I've asked several without ever getting an answer. DC still sells on newsstands, certain books. Marvel killed it around '13, possibly '14 |
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| The last DC I was able to find through the "newsstand" market (it was actually in the magazine section of our main grocery store in town) was a copy of Batman #40 (Scott Snyder & Greg Capullo, with Danny Miki). The "newsstand" book was actually priced one dollar higher (at $ 4.99) than the direct market edition. After that, the comics pretty much disappeared from the grocery store magazine section. |
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| The CGC boards has a fantastic discussing going on that mirrors this thread regarding newsstand editions. It can be found in comics general. | ||
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