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I love snowflakes. But not until it is actually winter.
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Collector Logan510 private msg quote post Address this user
Yes, you wouldn't want to get banned from yet another grading forum.


Understood.
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
Some people don't bow down to or bend over for anyone. Some do.

Just sayin'
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Some people don't bow down to or bend over for anyone. Some do.

Just sayin'


Yeah, that's what got you banned lol
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
And yet, here I am with you again. The world did not end.
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Atlas Shrugged.
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Collector CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user
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Mainstream media fearmongering at its best. Creating new social justice warriors, racial divide, and "patriotic" divide every day. The topic makes me sick.


Kindly stop stop tainting my words with reactionary talking points, you are misinformed.

I worked for Sanders 2016 primary run as an unpaid volunteer, between 5-10 hours a week, for about 3 months.I currently work as an unpaid volunteer, as much time as I can, to 2 other progressive organizations.

I know what I am talking about.

Progressives are not supported by the mainstream media, nor are progressives supported by establishment Dems.

PLEASE, step back from the reactionary talking points.

If you want to talk further, or if anyone else wishes to respond, please....let's keep this discussion to PM's.
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Maybe when they revamp the forums they can ban political and religious discussion.

Those arguments never end well.



Agreed with you here, to a large extent.

Politics,religion and associated issues should have their own subforum, to keep topics , on topic.

Or, talk of this sort should be banned altogether on this forum, if that idea is not explored, or if it does not work.

I have said it before, talking politics via in back and forth posts on a comic book forum is largely a waste of time, for all posters involved.

If the talk can be relegated to one subforum, when this forum is revamped, that would be fine.

Business and politics do not mix, however.

My barber does not talk politics to a regular customer when he's cutting his hair.

For obvious reasons i.e. he does not want to alienate some of his customers.

Accordingly, that is why CGC banned political posting, it was allowed on their board at one point.

So, if CBCS follows suit, which I would expect they would, I would respect that decision.

I don't think anything else needs to be said, in this thread, regarding politics.
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CGC banned political posting because most people act like children and cannot handle being disagreed with, as evidenced by...well...just look around. "If you disagree with me, you're not only wrong, you're EVIL." It was a knee-jerk reaction, and wouldn't have been necessary had they simply managed the situation: that is, once the posts started to be about the people involved, rather than the topics themselves, that's when you deal with it.

That's the answer. That's always been the answer, to every problem on internet message boards: don't let it get personal (and understand what it means to "get personal." ) But that requires work, and it's ever so much easier in the short term to just sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist, by deleting posts, editing posts, suspending people, banning people...until the sycophants turn on you, which they always do.

No, dealing with people responsibly is difficult work in the short term. In the long term, however, it produces tremendous benefits. Too bad most message board administrations don't see things in the long term.
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Let's leave the political talk out of comic book forums shall we
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Originally Posted by Logan510
Maybe when they revamp the forums they can ban political and religious discussion.

Those arguments never end well.



Agreed with you here, to a large extent.

Politics,religion and associated issues should have their own subforum, to keep topics , on topic.

Or, talk of this sort should be banned altogether on this forum, if that idea is not explored, or if it does not work.

I have said it before, talking politics via in back and forth posts on a comic book forum is largely a waste of time, for all posters involved.

If the talk can be relegated to one subforum, when this forum is revamped, that would be fine.

Business and politics do not mix, however.

My barber does not talk politics to a regular customer when he's cutting his hair.

For obvious reasons i.e. he does not want to alienate some of his customers.

Accordingly, that is why CGC banned political posting, it was allowed on their board at one point.

So, if CBCS follows suit, which I would expect they would, I would respect that decision.

I don't think anything else needs to be said, in this thread, regarding politics.


Sure it does. You've opened in the area that reflects upon yourself, CBCS, Beckett, and their parent company. You have decided to make a avatar a political statement. There have not been any rules broken to my knowledge. It is apparent by the lack of moderation that has happened that the mods feel the same way. You opened a door that allows for inflammatory content on the board. I think it will be interesting to see if the mods allow your avatar to stay. Personally, I think it will lead to chaos, and tit for tat reactions between people that have different views in the political spectrum.

I will say this, while your post are presented to be well-thought-out, I found what you did to be completely appalling. I am at a loss as to why you would seek to do what you have done on a comic book forum. This is a place where people come to talk about comic books, slabbing them, collecting them, and other parts of the hobby.

I didn't realize that I came here for a political discussion or to have someone provide me with their political views. I get enough of that in other areas of my life.
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@CopperAgeKids

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@CopperAgeKids Is there a reason why you changed your avatar to picture of the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson on his coffin? Did you know him, his wife, or a family member? As some of us have had friends, family, and loved ones who died in the service of our nation, I would like to express my appreciation for how you have chosen to honor a fallen member of the Armed Forces of the United States of America. It is only by remembering those that served before us that we grow stronger.


I didn't know Sgt. Johnson, or any of his friends or family.

It is an iconic image.

What it represents to me, says a lot about the cost of what U.S.'s current foreign policy, means to the common U.S. soldier and common U.S. citizen.

Both of my grandfather's served in WW 2 and Korea.If I were alive in those times, I would have enlisted.

I do not support our current administration and the for profit wars, which have been waging onward for decades.

The country thst Johnson died in is where about 40% of the world's uranium is mined, that is why Johnson his life.

President Eisenhower warned the U.S. public about the potential threat of the U.S. military-industrial complex, in 1961.

That picture is a sad reminder that we have not heeded Eisenhower's warning.


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Politics,religion and associated issues should have their own subforum, to keep topics , on topic


Insane, YOU are the one who started the political talk!
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Originally Posted by Towmater
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Originally Posted by Logan510
Maybe when they revamp the forums they can ban political and religious discussion.

Those arguments never end well.



Agreed with you here, to a large extent.

Politics,religion and associated issues should have their own subforum, to keep topics , on topic.

Or, talk of this sort should be banned altogether on this forum, if that idea is not explored, or if it does not work.

I have said it before, talking politics via in back and forth posts on a comic book forum is largely a waste of time, for all posters involved.

If the talk can be relegated to one subforum, when this forum is revamped, that would be fine.

Business and politics do not mix, however.

My barber does not talk politics to a regular customer when he's cutting his hair.

For obvious reasons i.e. he does not want to alienate some of his customers.

Accordingly, that is why CGC banned political posting, it was allowed on their board at one point.

So, if CBCS follows suit, which I would expect they would, I would respect that decision.

I don't think anything else needs to be said, in this thread, regarding politics.


Sure it does. You've opened in the area that reflects upon yourself, CBCS, Beckett, and their parent company. You have decided to make a avatar a political statement. There have not been any rules broken to my knowledge. It is apparent by the lack of moderation that has happened that the mods feel the same way. You opened a door that allows for inflammatory content on the board. I think it will be interesting to see if the mods allow your avatar to stay. Personally, I think it will lead to chaos, and tit for tat reactions between people that have different views in the political spectrum.

I will say this, while your post are presented to be well-thought-out, I found what you did to be completely appalling. I am at a loss as to why you would seek to do what you have done on a comic book forum. This is a place where people come to talk about comic books, slabbing them, collecting them, and other parts of the hobby.

I didn't realize that I came here for a political discussion or to have someone provide me with their political views. I get enough of that in other areas of my life.


The majority of my posts concern comic books.

I am not an employee of CBCS, anything that I post does not represent CBCS,Beckett or Becketts' parent company's views.

I am a legal citizen of the U.S.

If the mods remove my avatar, I would not object.

I do respect everything that you have related here.

I also respect the fact that I do not have to worry about being kidnapped and/or killed, for posting my opinions on this forum, or elsewhere on the internet... because we live in a free country.

Unlike Russia, Syria or North Korea where criticism of political leaders has resulted in questionable disappearances , poisoning and killing of journalists as well as private citizens of those respective countries.

That said, CBCS is entirely free to delete any of my posted content, avatar, if they believe it is a violation of CBCS Forum policy.

I would respect such a decision, if it were to be made.
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Collector CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user
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@CopperAgeKids

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Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids
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Originally Posted by Towmater
@CopperAgeKids Is there a reason why you changed your avatar to picture of the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson on his coffin? Did you know him, his wife, or a family member? As some of us have had friends, family, and loved ones who died in the service of our nation, I would like to express my appreciation for how you have chosen to honor a fallen member of the Armed Forces of the United States of America. It is only by remembering those that served before us that we grow stronger.


I didn't know Sgt. Johnson, or any of his friends or family.

It is an iconic image.

What it represents to me, says a lot about the cost of what U.S.'s current foreign policy, means to the common U.S. soldier and common U.S. citizen.

Both of my grandfather's served in WW 2 and Korea.If I were alive in those times, I would have enlisted.

I do not support our current administration and the for profit wars, which have been waging onward for decades.

The country thst Johnson died in is where about 40% of the world's uranium is mined, that is why Johnson his life.

President Eisenhower warned the U.S. public about the potential threat of the U.S. military-industrial complex, in 1961.

That picture is a sad reminder that we have not heeded Eisenhower's warning.


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Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids

Politics,religion and associated issues should have their own subforum, to keep topics , on topic


Insane, YOU are the one who started the political talk!


Towmatter asked me a question, I responded.
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So..... what does any of this have to do with comic books or CBCS ??
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Collector KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user
This thread is about the buy out of CBCS by Beckett. Why can't you guys keep on point? Always ends up way off topic and then locked.
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@CopperAgeKids Quote:
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Towmatter asked me a question, I responded.


That's true. Fair enough, he is known to egg people on.

Back to Beckett...
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Collector robertofredrico private msg quote post Address this user
Ok, the next person who posts anything in this thread that is even remotely political is admitting that they are a gigantic d-bag.
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Collector Symbiote private msg quote post Address this user
👆🏻 No fair, you just won your own contest
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The majority of my posts concern comic books.

I am not an employee of CBCS, anything that I post does not represent CBCS,Beckett or Becketts' parent company's views.

I am a legal citizen of the U.S.

If the mods remove my avatar, I would not object.

I do respect everything that you have related here.

I also respect the fact that I do not have to worry about being kidnapped and/or killed, for posting my opinions on this forum, or elsewhere on the internet... because we live in a free country.

Unlike Russia, Syria or North Korea where criticism of political leaders has resulted in questionable disappearances , poisoning and killing of journalists as well as private citizens of those respective countries.

That said, CBCS is entirely free to delete any of my posted content, avatar, if they believe it is a violation of CBCS Forum policy.

I would respect such a decision, if it were to be made.


If you do live in the USA as you have stated then you realize that the 1st Amendment was written to protect the citizen from the government. It wasn't made to protect people from the backlash that may accompany them sharing their views about whatever publicly. For example, comic book dealer a doesn't share his/her views and sells x amount of stuff on eBay and has load of followers on FaceBook. Comic Book dealer b does share their views and as a result doesn't sell large amounts of stuff on eBay and has a very small following on FaceBook. I guess that is why you stated the following in a post.


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Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids
Business and politics do not mix, however.

My barber does not talk politics to a regular customer when he's cutting his hair.

For obvious reasons i.e. he does not want to alienate some of his customers.

Accordingly, that is why CGC banned political posting, it was allowed on their board at one point.


What people post on a forum that a company places on the internet does reflect upon the company that owns or operates that forum. It shows what they are willing to provide a voice to. It is why the rules of forums generally get switched and changed. It is why moderation removes posts and locks threads.
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We have a Runner Up!
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Collector jrs private msg quote post Address this user
I sometimes think people are trying to get a thread locked.
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Collector CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user
To reinterate, I am not "trolling" anyone.

DB made some very astute observations regarding discussion of politics on CGC's forums as well as other internet forums, noing that personal attacks were largely responsible for the removal of any political posting and that it is easier to ban politics altogether, than moderate posts. (paraphrased).

To avoid endless qoutes, kindly refer to DB's post, which is post #309 in this thread.

Also, note that DB and myself share widely differing political views.

It is my assumption that DB holds libertarian/conservative views.He also (assumably) believes in capitalism....as I am assuming that all of us who post on this forum, also believe in capitalism (myself included).

FWIW:

I believe in a mix of regulated capitalism and Democratic Socialism.

Also...

FWIW:

I also believe that green peppers and onions make an otherwise bland Domino's pizza, pretty damn tasty.

FWIW Point three:

(insert random opinion here)

Now, when does a company, such as CBCS or CGC, step in and moderate a topic that may fall under "controversial" of "offensive" material, is up to CBCS.

CBCS, CGC or any company in America, has that right.

As DB noted, it is however, easier to simply just ban political discussion altogether.

If a post veers off topic, the mods will take action.

Back to DB's post.

I respect his views, and everyone else's views, wether I agree with their views or not.

One of the points that I was trying to make was that this great country of ours, was founded on political dissent.

Our founding fathers firmly believed that the U.S. government could never be allowed to degrade into a Government that prohibited political dissent,activism and protest of its' laws.

Hence Free Speech.

Our founding fathers also had the foresight to allow for amendments to be entered into the US Constitution, by public vote, to prevent the perversion of the ideals that America represents.

Were our founding fathers perfect?

No, they were not.No one is perfect.

Pretty sure that our founding fathers, while writing that "All men are created equal", were all slave owners.

The foresight that these men had via the provision that amendments to the US Constitution were possible through public vote...is what ultimately allowed for African-Americans to become free citizens of the U.S.

That is one of the reasons why American ideals must be protected.

That is why I love our country.
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We have a Runner Up!


If that was in reference to me, I guess we go back to the instructions Jesse O provided to me the last time. Please do not include me in your post or make reference to me.
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