From 8.0 to 9.6 ?4628
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Quote:Originally Posted by poka I had an X-Men 94 6.5 go to a 9.0. It had all the right defects. Believe it or not, one major non-color breaking defect could get a book as low as 8.0. A simple press could remove that to get it near the NM/NM+ range. |
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| I had a 8.5 go to 9.6 (might have been 9.4, can't remember) and didn't do a thing to it. Shows how consistent that other company is, and I'm not talking about PGX | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Pre_Coderundetectable and if it is, someone is using wrong solutions, or has no idea what they are doing. Best left to professionals. |
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| I'll have to take a photo when i get home but i have a teen titans 1 with maybe a dime sized water stain on the back cover that does not affect any interrior pages...i thought it was beyond fixing...is there a way to remove the stain without getting the restored kiss of death?? | ||
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| @KatKomics depends on who does it, if it can be removed. A lot of people think a water spot is just water often it's something more | ||
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm not discussing technique, or materials, or what I did. But this supergirl #1 comic book had visible moisture damage throughout the entire book. No staining however:     and now it looks like this:    Of course, you can't hide from the nasty color breaking outer rear corner crease! |
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All very interesting examples and information in this post. I wonder if this guy could get a bump due to a production error. I would have to re-VSP the signature however. |
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| So long as the underlying paper structure isn't broken...it can be pressed out. I have had 8.0s go to 9.4, 8.5s go to 9.6, 9.0s to 9.8. Just depends on the damage, as everyone else said. Once the underlying fibers are broken...that is, the dreaded non-color breaking crease...that can't be fixed. Flattened...but the line will still show. |
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| The biggest jump I've had was a Green Lantern 76 that was a 6.0 with moderate moisture wrinkling throughout the book. I pressed it to 9.2 because there was luckily no staining from the moisture. I've had a few others that were close to this, but this was my biggest grade jump. 8.0 to 9.6 is not uncommon if you get the right book with the right defects. |
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earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Hcanes if the production crease doesn't break color, it can be worked out. I had one that had a tight doubled over line like wrinkle. It took a few light pressings with humidity and I also hand pressed it the first time once humidity had been applied, I was able to slowly work crease out by hand to the point where press took over. Not an easy removal depending on how deep and long crease is. Not worth the effort unless the book has good value, sometimes better to leave it alone, here is why. Even though the full length crease is taken out and unseen, sometimes that crease is weak where the crease was and when you open the cover it may want to bend there. Hard to explain |
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I had an CBCS 8.5 Star Wars #1 that was pressed by Joe at CFP to a 9.6  I was hoping for a 9.2 so needless to say, i was ecstatic! |
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| So from what I understand, people use moisture before they press books...water in this case. But CGC (and maybe CBCS too?) indicates that using water can give a restored designation. My question is how much water is considered restoration? I imagine to much water would only negatively impact the book...like wavey/water droplets on cover. I guess I don't understand how it can get a restored label from water unless I'm missing something or CGCs website data is old. Other than using water to press, wouldn't it hurt the book in every other scenario and not be considered "adding" like the restored label typically identifies? |
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earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @comic_book_man not a place to go into detail of pressing process in detail. | ||
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| Only posting of before and after photos is allowed from what I can tell. Nothing else can be discussed here. | ||
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CFP_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by earthshaker01 He's asking this question all over the place. Wonder why. |
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| I have pulled 8.0 to 9.0+ never seen a 6.0 go to 9.0 or above most have color breaking creases that prevent that. | ||
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| @CFP_Comics no I was just asking you and figured I'd ask here too since you seemed really short with me in message. I guess it's a no discuss subject? Trade secret or something. No worries, I didn't know. I have a book with some water stains and a few soaked in a flood just wondering if they'll be considered restored or not if I get them pressed by CBCS. |
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| @earthshaker01 I'm not interested in how pressing works. Im just curious about water levels in books and how it impacts restoration consideration. My knowledge points me in the direction of "only if it improves the grade" but CGC does not mention that, and only that "water" is considered cleaning not dry cleaning. I just don't understand how humidity isn't water? For all these pressing people. What's CBCSs stance on the usage of water as restoration? How does it differentiate between unintentional and intentional? I assume that there is no answer based on the hush-hush and skepticism I got from @CFP_Comics. Lol |
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The Pressing Police are watching... |
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
 Ok...there has been talk or talk around if water stains can be removed and not considered restoration. Anyone know if a book such as this (stain is about thumb size) can be remedied?? Only on the back cover - does not affect interior pages. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Is everything Rick and Morty? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Look at him he is MR. Meeseeks |
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| Here's some of the better results I've gotten over the years: 5.5 to 7.0 8.0 to 9.0 9.0 to 9.4 8.0 to 9.4 9.2 to 9.6 |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by comic_book_man I believe the answer is "no" because water stains are not considered restoration...they're considered a defect. Now, if somehow being soaked in water improved he condition of your comic....well, then lucky you! Not sure how that can happen without some sort of pressing technique ....again, Still not restoration. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics Sort of. This book might not have hope. There are methods not mentioned here that could be done on white covers that work wonders. But stains like that are impossible to remove completely without professionals using restoration chemicals. See example below: the stains are still there:  my bone #1 breaks my heart when i see the stain on the cover, inside and out:  |
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@kaptainmyke kind of figured - was only $20 bucks - couldn't resist Not sure what the stain does to the grade but it still looks great!! |
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