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It's basically like being a chicken sexer. You look at the book and decide what it is.

How hard could that be to learn?

It's even easier if you have a ponytail.

I would guess that the pro graders would have a thick photo reference library as an aide.

A thick photo library.....of what?

I think not.

CBCS & CGC graders are hired based on, generally speaking, their ability to competently (which includes consistency, obviously) grade paper emphera.

If you need a visual aid of any sort to "assist" your ability to grade comics.....you are not even remotely experienced enough in this field, to even be considered for a position as a CBCS or CGC grader.

I have not applied to either CBCS or CGC for a Grader position, I just know this to be true.

If it were not true, than CBCS's and CGC's grading services would be worth no more than the cost of the materials used for encapsulation.

Interesting. I wouldn't use a visual aide exclusively, but why not use all tools available to be as thorough as possible during grading? I'd have multiple high quality pictures of full books at each grade and close ups of the multitude of potential various defects as well. Never hurts to have reference points for close calls.

A comic can't be accurately graded unless it is in hand.

A loupe, and a blacklight, are the tools needed to grade a book.

Two graders independently assign a book a grade. The head grader (third grader) than grades the book and assigns a finalized grade.

This is how it is done, at both CBCS and CGC.

Based on the vast knowledge you have exhibited in all your previous well written posts I hear you. Still seems like more is better, no matter how basic the reference is. For instance, let's say I'm scheduled for major (or even minor) surgery. I'd want my surgeon to have as many tools and references possible to achieve the most successful outcome possible.

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	Quote: Originally Posted by Savage_Spawn Quote: Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids Quote: Originally Posted by Savage_Spawn Quote: Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids Quote: Originally Posted by Savage_Spawn Quote: Originally Posted by conditionfreak It's basically like being a chicken sexer. You look at the book and decide what it is. How hard could that be to learn? It's even easier if you have a ponytail. I would guess that the pro graders would have a thick photo reference library as an aide. A thick photo library.....of what? I think not. CBCS & CGC graders are hired based on, generally speaking, their ability to competently (which includes consistency, obviously) grade paper emphera. If you need a visual aid of any sort to "assist" your ability to grade comics.....you are not even remotely experienced enough in this field, to even be considered for a position as a CBCS or CGC grader. I have not applied to either CBCS or CGC for a Grader position, I just know this to be true. If it were not true, than CBCS's and CGC's grading services would be worth no more than the cost of the materials used for encapsulation. Interesting. I wouldn't use a visual aide exclusively, but why not use all tools available to be as thorough as possible during grading? I'd have multiple high quality pictures of full books at each grade and close ups of the multitude of potential various defects as well. Never hurts to have reference points for close calls. A comic can't be accurately graded unless it is in hand. A loupe, and a blacklight, are the tools needed to grade a book. Two graders independently assign a book a grade. The head grader (third grader) than grades the book and assigns a finalized grade. This is how it is done, at both CBCS and CGC. Based on the vast knowledge you have exhibited in all your previous well written posts I hear you. Still seems like more is better, no matter how basic the reference is. For instance, let's say I'm scheduled for major (or even minor) surgery. I'd want my surgeon to have as many tools and references possible to achieve the most successful outcome possible. Thanks, but you may be giving me a bit too much credit. Either way, there are only so many tools that can used, to accurately grade a book. CBCS and CGC have flatbed black light scanners, for instance. That, and a high end loupe, is all that can be used to grade a book. In conjunction with a second grader,who grades the book indepentently, neither of the two graders knows how the other grader called the book. So you have 2 well experienced graders independently grading a book with the best tools available. Than the head grader, finalizes the grade. Grading comics to an extent is subjective, that is why both CBCS and CGC have 3 graders, in total, grade a book. Major,or minor, surgery.....is comparable, to a certain extent but not in the sense you referenced. If one is undergoing surgery, there is no time to pull out reference guides. The "reference guide" is ingrained in the surgeons' mind. Similarly, such a "reference guide" for a grader, is all stored in his brain, stemming from experience. Surgery is more elaborate, so an assisting surgeon acts as a reference guide, of sorts. The head surgeon has to know precisely what he is doing, having to have to resort to a reference guide during a heart transplant could result in the death of the patient. Similarly, a (pre) grader who has to use anything other than his trained eyes, a loupe and a blacklight...will result in an inaccurate grade being assigned. That is also why a surgeon (or head geader) has a full surgical team (or 2 pre-graders) assisting him. Of course the surgeon has the latest medical technology at his disposal, as well. Just as CBCS and CGC graders have the most high end of tools available to them. But like I said, there are only so many tools (a loupe and a blacklight) that a Grader can utilize, other than his trained eye /experience.
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	@SuperSaiyanBlue are you wanting to send your friends books to CBCS to get certified (the books are graded and certified at tw CBCS office) OR are you wanting to certify your friends books yourself? The second option is not possible for anyone to do.
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If I could, I would. I swear. 54.34K	54.34K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	I think he may be thinking about being an AW, perhaps?
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	Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer @SuperSaiyanBlue are you wanting to send your friends books to CBCS to get certified (the books are graded and certified at tw CBCS office) OR are you wanting to certify your friends books yourself? The second option is not possible for anyone to do. The First Option I know the secondis imposible.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by earthshaker01 @SuperSaiyanBlue wait a second, don't I get a personal thank you? Well that's it. No more 50% off. I'm Sorry in México the people apologies for everything when is wrong.
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	So, your first post was perfect written English. Now your posts are garbled, almost as if intentional. hmmm....my spider sense is tingling.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by SuperSaiyanBlue Quote: Originally Posted by conditionfreak So, your first post was perfect written English. Now your posts are garbled, almost as if intentional. hmmm....my spider sense is tingling. No, my English is very bad, I have very troubles with write. My friend your English is very good and a lot better than our Spanish.
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CBCS broke up with me over Facebook. 3.99K	3.99K CFP_Comics private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	This thread makes my head hurt.
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. 20.41K	20.41K earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 5
	@CFP_Comics for 100.00 I also have a program to teach how to grade headaches on scale from 1 to 10, A 1 would be a poor headache, while anything above a 9.4 headache is rare and considered extreme.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids Quote: Originally Posted by Savage_Spawn Quote: Originally Posted by CopperAgeKids Quote: Originally Posted by Savage_Spawn Quote: Originally Posted by conditionfreak It's basically like being a chicken sexer. You look at the book and decide what it is. How hard could that be to learn? It's even easier if you have a ponytail. I would guess that the pro graders would have a thick photo reference library as an aide. A thick photo library.....of what? I think not. CBCS & CGC graders are hired based on, generally speaking, their ability to competently (which includes consistency, obviously) grade paper emphera. If you need a visual aid of any sort to "assist" your ability to grade comics.....you are not even remotely experienced enough in this field, to even be considered for a position as a CBCS or CGC grader. I have not applied to either CBCS or CGC for a Grader position, I just know this to be true. If it were not true, than CBCS's and CGC's grading services would be worth no more than the cost of the materials used for encapsulation. Interesting. I wouldn't use a visual aide exclusively, but why not use all tools available to be as thorough as possible during grading? I'd have multiple high quality pictures of full books at each grade and close ups of the multitude of potential various defects as well. Never hurts to have reference points for close calls. A comic can't be accurately graded unless it is in hand. A loupe, and a blacklight, are the tools needed to grade a book. Two graders independently assign a book a grade. The head grader (third grader) than grades the book and assigns a finalized grade. This is how it is done, at both CBCS and CGC. Based on the vast knowledge you have exhibited in all your previous well written posts I hear you. Still seems like more is better, no matter how basic the reference is. For instance, let's say I'm scheduled for major (or even minor) surgery. I'd want my surgeon to have as many tools and references possible to achieve the most successful outcome possible.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by earthshaker01 I also offer a surgeon certificate do you also certify people in phrenology as well
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