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Collector KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user
Would you prefer 9.6 or 9.6 with checkmark?
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He sounds like a vegan who wants real mayonnaise to be vegan friendly. Instant_Subtitles private msg quote post Address this user
I have experienced what @shrewbeer has stated here. And to make my point short, the only time I questioned why a comic received a grade LOWER than I personally thought it deserved... It was graded by CBCS. The CGC graded pieces I had only resulted in one looking like it deserved that grade. The remaining three either looked 9.6 or had QC issues that might drop it from its 9.8 status.

Which is why I have decided that unless the condition justifies the price, I am going to take my chances and have any raw comics I choose to buy be graded. Because if I am going to dish out extra money for a .2 difference, I want to see that .2 difference. Just like I want to see little-to-no wear when I buy a "brand new" vintage video game (which is a different topic, and one I had eBay's help on).
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
Have to admit. When it comes to copper or modern books. I will not settle for less than a CBCS 9.8, when buying already graded and slabbed. It's just a mental thing, but it is there.
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Have to admit. When it comes to copper or modern books. I will not settle for less than a CBCS 9.8, when buying already graded and slabbed. It's just a mental thing, but it is there.


It’s healthy to be a little mental. We collect comics after all! 😎
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
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Honestly in most cases you could resubmit a 9.6 for regrading and have a high chance of getting a 9.8 back. It just depends on the grader, time of day, how many glasses of scotch he has had, etc.


If it has a spine tick, take the grade you got and run. Never resubmit a book that has a color breaking tick or corner damage expecting a 9.8.

When I submit books, I am with others never expect a 9.8. Chances are they'll find something. I will say that when I have received 9.6s I've studied the book very closely and there has always been at least one, somed two, visible defects...I use that knowledge and experience when deciding what to send in for grading as well as when I buy a modern off the rack. I have to admit I would consider 95% of new comics on the rack to be no better than 9.6 as the have some sort of small corner damage or tick. Very rare to find a modern without.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
But to answer the original question, there were only a couple comics that were "must have in 9.8s" and all were modern and affordable ($100 or less) with a plan To maybe sell it someday, likely replacing it with a 9.6 (and pocket the remaking cash or buy other books).

Once a comic goes over the $100 mark I look at what a 9.6 costs and will gladly take the affordability route if it's just something I want for my collection, and not to invest. I have a lot of 9.6s and I'm very content with the grade.
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Have to admit. When it comes to copper or modern books. I will not settle for less than a CBCS 9.8, when buying already graded and slabbed. It's just a mental thing, but it is there.


I agree. I have the same mental block. If it ain't 9.8, it ain't sh@t. I am not sure that this is a healthy trend for the hobby. I know the history of the 10.0 scale has been discussed on other threads, but I remember when I was younger that you went by NM, VF, etc. A NM was a NM and you were happy to have it. Now, 9.6s are the new VFs, at least for moderns.

There's a youtuber that I watch sometimes that doesn't like the grading companies. He claims that something similar happened in the sports card hobby a few years back. Used to be that NM/M cards were rare and sought after. When grading came in, people instantly encapsulated new cards and NM/M became so common that it devalued the whole hobby. Anything less than NM/M was spat upon and NM/M were a dime a dozen.

I don't know enough about other collecting hobbies to know if that's true, or if he's just an old man yelling at a cloud. But my own view on 9.6s now makes me wonder if there is something to it.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
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Have to admit. When it comes to copper or modern books. I will not settle for less than a CBCS 9.8, when buying already graded and slabbed. It's just a mental thing, but it is there.


Got a few bronze/modern 9.6s in that list of slabs you posted πŸ˜‰

And why do people call it the Bronze Age? Copper is more valuable than bronze. Brass might be as well. Tin is more valuable ($/lbs) than copper!!

Seems like it should go gold/silver/tin/nickel/copper...then finally bronze.
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
Based on Olympic medals?? Gold, Silver, Bronze??
Don't get me going on current systems for kids. "Oooo, you got triple platinum diamond!! - good job!!" Oh no wait that's the lowest level you can get - heaven forbid kids ever loose at something.
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Collector NilesPaine private msg quote post Address this user
So we’re still calling this Modern Age? Or can we finally call it something new? Grab um and slab um age?? Ultra super hyper mega titanic awesome cover age?? Also, this is how Marvel now names their comics. 😁
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
Wait a second....Gold 38-55 (18yrs)
Silver 56-69 (14yrs)
Bronze 70-83 (14yrs)
Copper 84-91??why only 8 years
Modern 92-Current!!!! 26 freakin years!!!!!

How do we start a new naming convention?? - maybe use the periodic table and set 15-20 year breaks, potentially brakes based on generations of artists, or types of heroes or something. When did Supes die again? that started a whole slew of killing/resurrection maybe that era should be called "rebirth" or "born again", last 10-15 years is the 'Reboot' era?? Liefeld era could be called the 'Poor Anatomical Drawing' era
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
Ha, I knew bringing up the "age" debate would derail this thread quickly....
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Collector CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user
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I have experienced what @shrewbeer has stated here. And to make my point short, the only time I questioned why a comic received a grade LOWER than I personally thought it deserved... It was graded by CBCS. The CGC graded pieces I had only resulted in one looking like it deserved that grade. The remaining three either looked 9.6 or had QC issues that might drop it from its 9.8 status.

Which is why I have decided that unless the condition justifies the price, I am going to take my chances and have any raw comics I choose to buy be graded. Because if I am going to dish out extra money for a .2 difference, I want to see that .2 difference. Just like I want to see little-to-no wear when I buy a "brand new" vintage video game (which is a different topic, and one I had eBay's help on).


Approximately how many books have you subbed to CGC and approximately how many books have you subbed to CBCS?

It is somewhat popular for CBCS boardie to assert that CGC grades softly.

The same thing is true , just reversed in perspective, on the CGC Forums.
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Collector Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
Copper should end at the turn of the century...or correspond to when marvel went bankrupt. That would add a few more years (12-16 stretch)....I can't think of anything I would consider "modern" that was created or happened before 2000.
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
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Ha, I knew bringing up the "age" debate would derail this thread quickly....


Yep
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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Ha, I knew bringing up the "age" debate would derail this thread quickly....


Yep


Sorry
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
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Have to admit. When it comes to copper or modern books. I will not settle for less than a CBCS 9.8, when buying already graded and slabbed. It's just a mental thing, but it is there.


Got a few bronze/modern 9.6s in that list of slabs you posted πŸ˜‰

And why do people call it the Bronze Age? Copper is more valuable than bronze. Brass might be as well. Tin is more valuable ($/lbs) than copper!!

Seems like it should go gold/silver/tin/nickel/copper...then finally bronze.


Yea, we all have some drek in our collections. It happens. But I think you confused bronze with copper. Different animals.
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Collector CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user
This thread can be summed up in one word...well, 5 words...nah, my bad.

7 words and 2 numbers.

PRE-SCREEN ALL COPPER THRU MODERN BOOKS FOR 9.8.

If you're subbing books that you need 9.8's at Baltimore for onsite grading, make sure they are rock solid 9.8's or you'll be sorry.

CGC will not pre-screen books that are graded onsite.
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