ebay buyer accuses me of switching labels!4188
 CBCS broke up with me over Facebook.
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Did not know it was that bad, figured he got better over the last few years. I remember reviewing a few books for someone at Mega-Con a few years ago and saw a GS X-Men #1 that looked "floppy" and had a spine that you could shave with. The guy said "Oh, don't worry about that one, it was pressed already". Found out it was PC's work after the fact. Looks like it was done with a 10 ton hydraulic press. |
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| Jesus. I'll just be quiet so I don't get suspended again. | ||
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| Here's the deal. If I accept this return then I will not be submitting anymore comics for grading with CBCS until I know for sure the scoring on the sides of the cases has been removed or fixed. Also, until this switching labels concern is fixed as well. Good bye CBCS. Nice knowing ya. |
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| Die-hard fans are dropping like flies. WHO'S AT THE HELM?? |
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| He's not going to like that email at all. | ||
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| Probably not smart going with that route. Ebay will side with the buyer. Buyer might actually do something to the comic now and Ebay will still refund him the entire amount. | ||
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| Oh well, after 12 G.D. pages on this forum, not one single response from a CBCS representative. They made their bed, now they are going to have to lie in it. | ||
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 I just want to close with this: I bitched about this scoring problem last year. Now with label swap scares this in conjunction with the former has now literally came back to bite me in the butt. Called it. Told you. I told CBCS. I told you all. Nobody is going to trust these slabs at this point. And now buyers are concerned. Whatever. Those who watch Rick and Morty know what this image means. CBCS is Rick in this instance. And we are all Morty who just got drunk dialed into a massive party all for Noob Noob, a character only a drunken stupor would forget about entirely. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer+1 |
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 He sounds like a vegan who wants real mayonnaise to be vegan friendly.
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| I just got off the phone with CBCS on the subject. And I'll grind it down to what you guys wanted to know, hear, etc. But this is all I got: - The white markings on the side of the cases are production related. This is from the way they currently produce the shells, and it sounds like they are looking for a solution on this issue. - The casings are not sealed on the sides for the same reasons Collectible Grading Authority does not have their products be 100% sealed: To prevent generated gasses from deteriorating the product. - Both people I have talked to HAVE stated that they are going to issue a statement on this issue. They, at this point of time, do not have the statement and solution on hand. Also... Sorry for not trying to do this sooner, kaptainmyke and company. I feel like if I did, you guys would be more relaxed with the issue. |
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| Well unless an actual time machine is invented and available for public use, there's nothing that can be done at the moment. I have too many books out with Trinity and out in the wild to have this make me lose sleep over it. Time to move forward and forward is what I must do. The ebay buyer is not even the issue. He's nothing to me. The issue at hand is the faith of buyers in a resellers market. Period. | ||
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He sounds like a vegan who wants real mayonnaise to be vegan friendly.
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Thanks.  I wanted to reply with a harsher tone, but felt that I would have been seen as being no better than how he was acting. Plus, his need to have 25,000+ comics reminded me of this one "Collection Intervention". Including the Golden Apple portion of that episode.Quote: Originally Posted by jrs I know, right? It gave me that same feeling when I met one of MArvel's editors at Anime Expo and she told me how both she and others there absolutely hated the decision to do 'Brand New Day'. |
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He sounds like a vegan who wants real mayonnaise to be vegan friendly.
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| @kaptainmyke It sounds nice to have that, but I think you just need to take a break. Just take the time reassessing the situation, figure out how you could have handled each moment differently, and plan out a strategy from what you have concluded. Because in the end, your business is your product. And you are the advertisement committee. So what you should now is to not worry about this and focus on building and promoting a better product. Even if it means reducing the price by $10 so they can choose to have it re-slabbed. All the best.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Sorry to say this, but you come across way too threatening in this message. If I received that, it would seem to me that you would get the book back, say I damaged it, and keep my money, no matter what. I KNOW THIS IS NOT HOW YOU ARE, BUT THE WORDING WOULD HAVE ME WORRIED. If I were the customer, I'd be working on alternate plans in case you tried to screw me. |
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 Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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Quote:Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Just a bit of perspective here. The outer plastic shell is injection molded plastic. It will have an injection point. A comic book slab is a fairly large plastic part, as molded parts go. It is going to have a fairly large injection point. Or more than one injection point. That's because the hot, molten plastic is being injected into a steel block that is the mold - which has a water jacket to keep the mold at a much lower temperature. If the plastic part is fairly large, you have to have a large injection site or multiple sites to get the plastic to fill the mold before it starts cooling down and hardening. Not enough sites or a big enough site you can't get enough plastic in fast enough to fill the mold. The injection point is always going to look rougher. The bigger the injection point, the more noticeable it will be. EVERY SINGLE GRADING COMPANIES SLABS HAVE INJECTION SITES that are rougher in appearance than the rest of the slab. See pictures EVERY SINGLE GRADING COMPANIES SLABS CAN HAVE THE LABELS SWAPPED OUT. But it is rare. A stack of Generation 1 and Generation 2 CGC slabs. They all have a rough looking area where the injection of plastic took place. These are molded plastic parts....Not precision hand tooled blocks of stainless steel. A lot of qualities are taken into account - including costs. An imperfection in appearance on the edge of the case is a fair trade off. This isn't a case problem. It's a buyer problem. This discussion has occurred over and over again at the forums across the street about THEIR slabs. Gen 1  Gen 2  |
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Still not exactly right - but much closer It was the INNER holder that was weak and breaking as a result of using some recycled plastic in the manufacturing. |
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| This thread is sure bringing up more questions then any answers being supplied. The one question I want to know an answer to is who is the head man? |
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| I have no horse in this race and have kept quiet for weeks until cbcs gave us an update, but after 3 weeks or so and not a peep from a representative is a little concerning for me as i was getting books together for my first submission. I guess ill have to wait and see, but really, an update should of been made immediately. Every company has flaws or issues that arise, but how you handle them is what matters. Its always better to come out and speak about it right away than to disappear for weeks with no word. With that said, i hope this gets straighten out but, after what cgc did with the new slab fiasco, and how they handled it, cbcs seems to be taking the same approach. NOT GOOD! | ||
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@IronMan unfortunately there is a difference in the injection mold site between the companies. CBCS sides kind of do look like they were pried with a screwdriver, and one cannot expect that all buyers will be informed  That said, kap's buyer was a COMPLETE moron. |
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan Potato, patahto, plastics, plastiques. It was crappy material that caused stuff to break.  The main point being CBCS responded quickly and clearly. This go around, while possibly not quite as dire a situation, the response has been, well... lackluster. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by D84 I appreciate your opinion and point of view. But, as long as the book is received and he did not try to open it to see if I tampered it, then all is good and I will resell back on ebay. He's been threatening me and with negative feedback as well, which is against ebay policy. His claims are all unfounded. I was just trying to be as blunt as possible on the situation because he has caused a disruption in everything and also caused a ripple effect on this forum and its business practices. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan So what you are saying is we have unknowing buyers who are uninformed on the entire process of grading? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BrianGreensnipsYes CBCS can polish down the sides. I am a machinist,fabricator,finisher by trade. I build aircraft parts I deal with all types of materials aluminum, stainless steels, carbon steels, plastics, and acrylics. Those slabs can be polished down with an angle grinder and a standard abrasives medium softstone, you could remove enough material to make it look smooth. The problem that you would run into by doing that is cloudiness in the polished area, but hey I think that a bit of cloudiness is better than having score mark on the case. CBCS, I live about 20 mins up US 19 from you and I'm available on Fridays to come show you how this can be achieved. All you need is an experienced finisher one maybe two days a week to do a weeks supply. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer On CGC's Gen 2 slab pictures, the second from the top has a "screwdriver taken to it look" The Gen 1 slabs imho a newbie might say all look suspicious. And yes in fact newbies have been saying that for almost two decades. Nothing wrong with the CBCS slab here. It is the buyer that is faulty |
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He sounds like a vegan who wants real mayonnaise to be vegan friendly.
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Quote:Originally Posted by rckstr1253 I posted about this. The response will arrive. [ERRATA: Did not see the "thumbs up".] |
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| When I got my first CGC slabs, I thought those injection scores on the sides are places where the slab was supposed to be sealed in addition to the 4 posts. Only after reading several discussions on the CGG chat boards did I realize they are just injection ports for the molten plastic and not meant to be any kind of seal at all. The problem is, if you are uneducated on the injection molding process like I was, it would be easy to think they must serve some purpose for the slabbing of the book and not some necessary byproduct related to the manufacture of the slab parts. No doubt some trimming at the factory already takes place to smooth these injection points down and other places where the plastic leaks out. Also, it's obvious some don't understand the slab is not supposed to be sealed tight at the sides as to allow the slab to breath. Once again, like I was, some think the slab has been tampered with just because the sides can be pulled apart a little bit. It's really too bad this lack of knowledge and understanding is causing such a problem between (honest) buyers and sellers and/or scammers are trying to use it to gain leverage for their scam. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Yeah, kind of depressing to watch. I personally don't have a dog in this fight right now, but the silence is a bit deafening. If they are losing die-hard forum members, I can only assume that other collectors are/will be jumping too. |
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| @Instant_Subtitles Zero information learned on your phone call was new information. Every single thing you repeated was something every one of us already knew, and for a long time. But thanks for the effort. |
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| @Themaxx35 he just needs his friday night scotch and he will calm down and be back | ||
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