What does this tick/check mark mean?3999
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| I received another lot of ten comics from CBCS today including this Amazing Adventures 1 in a 9.0 with a tick at the side of the grade. I vaguely recall seeing on this site (I think) something about an asterisk which denoted a nice copy of said grade. I presume this is the same idea?  |
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| Yes. The check mark is meant to indicate it presents even better than the number grade it was assigned. Personally, I'd prefer a slight grade bump (in this case, maybe a 9.2?) but I guess "that's a good looking 9.0, CHECK!  " serves a purpose. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by 00slim Thanks for the confirmation. I can't decide whether I am in favour of this. Probably not. This does of course beg the question : If it's a superior looking 9.0 and yet doesn't quite make 9.2 why not just call it a 9.1? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Redshade Because it's a 9.0 |
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Redshade private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by AndyRexia So why the tick then? |
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| It's a slap to the face. Here, you're grade could have been better. | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Redshade because without close inspection it looks better than its technical grade. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Hi Darth. Yes I understand that. But if a 9.0 and a 9.0tick were on sale then of course everyone would go for the 9.0tick because it is somehow perceived as "better". Taken to its logical conclusion what if a 9.0 were slightly less nicer than other 9.0s would it get a designation 9.0x or something? I guess my point is that if a numerical system is to be used then stick with numerals. |
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AndyRexia private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Redshade Because it looks better than other 9.0's |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Redshade it's doesn't work the other direction, they do not have a reverse checkmark saying a book looks worse than the grade. So nothing to worry about there. I don't think a lot of buyers even know what the checkmark means yet for it to start bringing premium prices. | ||
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| @Redshade A grade is arrived to by an accumulation of defects of different magnitudes. In the comic collecting community, there is a rough understanding of the "look," the number and types of defects to be expected on a book of a certain grade. A 7.0 you expect to look a certain way, a 9.0 you expect to look a certain way. But not all flaws are created equal. A tear alone may bring a book down to a 5.0 but the book tself may be nm otherwise so it looks nicer than other books of the same grade. This doesn't mean the book is a 6.0 or 7.0 (to use an exaggerated version of your suggestion). The book is still a 6.0 because the magnitude of it's flaws place it in that grade. However, its tear may have less effect on the book's visual appeal than the number of wrinkles, dents, creases, etc that normally accompany (and are responsible for) books of the same grade |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @dielinfinite well said! | ||
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Redshade private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I understand entirely how the grading system works and I am not trying to be contentious but I still think that if the numbers need to be supplemented by other marks it is losing the perceived logic behind the numerical system. I still think that a 9.1 would be preferable to a 9.0tick.  |
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| The "tick" simply represents the books presentabilty whereas the grade represents the books structural integrity and defects. The book may appear to be a 9.2 (or 9.1 for the anal) at arm's length, but when you get down to the nitty-gritty it's still a 9.0 Some 9.0 books look nicer than other 9.0 books, some 3.0 books look nicer than other 3.0 books - still, it is what it is. |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Redshade They grade isn't being supplemented. The grade is a collection of defects which brought them to an opinion of 9.0. But they also had the opinion that from outside appearance, the book looks like it's better. Think of books like women, sometimes they are a lot prettier on the outside than they are on the inside. | ||
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Checkmark=press book and try again for 9.8  |
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Rafel private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Instead of a "check" mark or "astrix" on a book that is better than a 9.0 but not as good as a 9.2....why not give it a 9.1?? Isn't that what a grade between 0 to 10 is? I've seen 9.5's before. Why not 9.1's, 9.3's? | ||
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| You can always pay another $20.00 and have that wonderful "CVA" sticker applied instead..... :o) JK!! Sheez folks.....don't get so uptight! hehehe |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Rafel because on the current scale those grades do not exist. Each number is a replacement for a letter grade and in-between grades. |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| A 9.0 is VF/NM, a 9.2 is NM- What would be in-between those? NM --? VF/NM+? Where would it end? |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
The range of allowed defects on the high end is already pretty tight.  |
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| Hopefully this is helpful to people. | ||
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Rafel private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Thank you for this chart. There should be odd number grades other than ".5's". That would solve any questions on grades. Coins graders don't have a skip number system when grading coins. |
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| I remember back in the 80s when I subscribed to Comic Buyers Guide (which used to take six weeks to arrive)there would be sellers advertising comics that were, for instance, VF+++. I thought that the numerical system was supposed to do away with nonsense like this? It just seems to be a retrograde step to start having ticks. What if there were two 9.0ticks and one was a teeny weeny bit better than the other, would it be 9.0tickticktick? Quote: Originally Posted by Rafel Darth, was not the numerical system supposed to supplant previous system? Forget about G/VG/F/VF etc so we don't even have to try to exactly correlate the two. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Redshade Great question! Interestingly enough, coins do that very thing in the highest grades...filled in the "in between" numbers, before the various stars and pluses that are the check marks of the coin hobby. Eventually, if enough people keep asking for it, these grades will be adopted. |
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| And...it's a 9.0...today. On another go-round...since we know that, by CBCS standards, this is a strong 9.0...it might very well grade that 9.2. That grade is only valid for that book on the day it was graded. Any other day, it could be something else, because........grading is subjective! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Redshade I think the intention was to supplement and simplify rather than supplant. Although it may very well lead toward that one day. And may eventually expand. I hope not, I like the current system. And the way Overstreet has it laid out makes sense to me. I don't look forward to adding more grades and complication to the system. |
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| Coin grading nomenclature for mint state coins: MS60 - Uncirculated MS61 " " MS62 " " MS63 - Select Uncirculated MS64 - Choice Uncirculated MS65 - Gem Uncirculated MS66 " " MS67 - Superb Gem Uncirculated MS68 " " MS69 " " MS70 - Perfect Uncirculated https://coins.ha.com/tutorial/coin-grading.s No separate nomenclature needed for 61, 62, 66, 68, or 69. |
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Rafel private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown Thanks Doc, This kinda proves my point on why comic book grades don't include the odd or in between grades. |
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