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| Yeah, it's supposed to be a lot more prominent than that though. | ||
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| Yah...seems disapointing? There's lots of jokes that can be made, but I'll leave it alone...for now. | ||
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| We're on to Day 3 of this now, it would be nice to get a response from CBCS, an open discussion with them would be even better. Shouldn't something like this take priority? Should they continue accepting submissions or should they cease all grading until this is addressed? | ||
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| Meetings. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego hmmm well that clearly does NOT have the heat seal  Interested to see what mine look like at home. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KiloGraham Steve addressed part 1 earlier in the thread. The answer seems to have blown up now, so I would hope we get further response after meetings lol I dont think this is nearly a "stop the presses" type problem though |
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It really only effects the resellers. Most of us here subbed directly to CBCS from our own books or Trinity. Still could lower the value of slabs on ebay imo. | ||
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer No kidding. Not when there are literally millions of graded books from the cgc that have exactly the same issue, if not worse. |
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| All that video was meant to do was to get all the people riled up and ruffle their feathers. Apparently, it worked better than a Grimm Fairy Tales porn cover. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by KiloGrahamI agree. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson heh, you said peckerwoods. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatsonI definetely agree that it ruffled a lot of feathers. It is a shame that people can't leave sh## alone. That last video where the guy did it to the CGC slab was terribly done. In my opinion, it was a waste of time and showed nothing. |
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 CBCS broke up with me over Facebook.
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Quote:Originally Posted by KiloGraham I doubt this will happen. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Regardless of the intentions of the video maker, the fact is that it has exposed and verified that the slab and inner well can be manipulated and tampered with. This is a serious concern for the integrity of cbcs, for collectors who buy cbcs slabs off the market place and the sellers who are selling them. Tamper evident outter case is something cbcs sells their service on. This is not about TCC, or its owner, or who he works for. This is about cbcs addressing the issue professionally. Do people need to stop submitting or email and say you want your books placed on hold till they address this? How about the slightest inkling that they are even discussing this in meetings? The big dog that lives next door just took a big steamy dump on their front lawn and they're leaving it there for every passer by to see. They need to start cleaning this sh*t up. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KiloGraham In complete agreement. Well said. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JLS_Comics Look at 11:15 and 12:42. The two bottom posts are broken (of course), and the bottom edge is significantly cracked and mangled. The sides of the old CGC cases are, indeed, left open on purpose, but the top and bottom edges are not. They are sealed. Now, that doesn't mean that was always the case, but that's what the corner posts are for. If they're broken, reject the slab. If you're not sure, GENTLY try to pull apart the sides of the slab...gently, or you'll crack the slab...if the slab easily comes apart, it's because the posts were broken. I don't know what this guy was really trying to accomplish, because this video doesn't achieve the goal it sets out to achieve, which is to show how an old CGC slab can be convincingly tampered with. Either the guy is reallllllllly unobservant and lacks critical thinking, or this is a brilliant ruse to support CGC. Either way, for declared purposes, it fails. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KiloGraham The fact that they're allowing this thread to continue as it has been is evidence that they're doing something. It might not look like much, but it's good faith evidence that they're not just going to squash any discussion that could be detrimental to them. Do not think this thread is not being closely monitored. |
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 Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego I disagree. If you get mugged on a dark street - is your focus from then on ONLY getting some street lights installed? Or would you like to see something done about the muggers as well. We agree on the QC. We disagree on the "Nothing else matters". |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KiloGraham |
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Yes... They should just run the heat seal all the way from top to bottom of label. Seems like from a QC perspective, that would be easier than specifying an exact distance. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan As far as muggers go. I'm a trained and licensed Concealed Carrier. GLWTS would be muggers. As far as CGC, their new case is locked down like fort Knox, so their old case is irrelevant. Neither Muggers nor CGC has any bearing on CBCS addressing a QC issue. Let's focus, shall we? |
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| And I think this needs to be said again, at the risk of the eye-rolls and memes from the peanut gallery: There's no need to panic. You are your own best ally against fraud attempted against you, by learning how to grade for yourself. Yes, it's tough to tell the difference between a 9.6 and a 9.8 sometimes. And yes, it's even tougher to tell the difference between a 6.0 and a 7.0. And yes, there is still the very serious issue of restored books swapped out with unrestored labels, in the same grade. Those are, by nature, almost always impossible to tell just from examination of the case, and for that alone, this issue must be addressed. But you can prevent the "low hanging fruit" of someone swapping a 9.2 for a 9.8 almost all of the time, just by learning how to grade. If you learn to trust your own eyes, you won't have to rely on other people telling you what the grade should be. You can, instead, agree with them, which is the far superior position to be in. You need not become an expert; anyone can learn to grade well enough to prevent much fraud if they just spend some time looking at a lot of different books in a lot of different slabs, and studying the various grading guides that exist. You can be your own best ally in fraud prevention. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by IronMan What sucks is Peegeexes already do this (from looking at pics, I dont actually own one) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego You talk about what you think matters, I'll talk about what I think matters. That's focusing - for both of us. Where we agree, we agree. Where we don't, we don't. |
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| @shrewbeer I don't own a PeeGeeXus either...that fact might change #soon...beware the List CyBerCerberuS. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego CBCS could come on here and flat out tell us all to fk-off, and I still wouldnt ever buy one of those 🤢 |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Even a broken clock is right 2x a day  PGX's slab has always been comparable to the competitions. It LOOKS Like they run that seal along the edges. However, my own experience is as often than not more appearance than an actual seal against the paper. Sometimes it clings tight, sometimes it's just an appearance. |
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| Are people just trying to see how long they can keep this thread alive? I think all views have been stated. It just looks like idle debate now whereby there is no resolution to be found. Until CBCS chimes in, this is all academic. Just saying. | ||
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