Shouldn't this be a green label???3788
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 2 centerfolds missing, affects the story. (Tape on spine of cover). Incomplete Why isn't this a green label? |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| Missing centerfold is automatically 0.5, same for missing pages. Flaw is too big for green label. |
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| It just sold for $155 on ComicLink. Doesn't matter to me I just saw the grade and was totally confused. | ||
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| UNIVERSAL LABEL (BLUE) This label is applied to comic books that are simply the grade as marked, with no qualifiers or special considerations. QUALIFIED LABEL (GREEN) A Qualified label is used by CGC for certified books that have a significant defect that needs specific description, or to note an unauthenticated signature (one which was not witnessed by CGC). For example, a comic book with a missing coupon that otherwise grades 6.0 will receive a Qualified grade, avoiding a considerably lower grade. CGC would give this book a Qualified grade of 6.0 and a Label Text notation “COUPON MISSING FROM PAGE 10, DOES NOT AFFECT STORY.” Or, if the book is signed on the cover it may be noted as “NAME WRITTEN ON COVER IN MARKER.” |
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| @OGJackster if it was green label it would get a qualified grade higher than the real grade, the owner chose to go blue label for real grade of 0.5. Does that clear things up? | ||
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| @OGJackster It's a blue label because none of the flaws were exempted from the grade. The flaws present merit a 0.5. If the grade were qualified, a major flaw would not have been factored into the grade which then would've been higher. Green labels are optional and could always be put in a blue label with a lower grade |
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Now I'm really confused. For some reason, I can't wrap my pea brain around this... So for this 3-D-ell with no glasses (had them but they were detached)could I have gotten a lower grade if I wanted a blue label???  |
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| @OGJackster Yes. A Blue label is the all-encompassing grade, taking into account every flaw on the book. If the book has a major flaw, like an unwitnessed signatre, missing 3D glasses, or a missing page, CGC may give it a Qualified Grade where that major flaw is not factored into the grade and so the book gets a higher grade. When submitting to CGC you can always request that you want the blue label specifically so that the grade provided is comprehensive of all the book's flaws. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite I was unaware of that thanks for the information   |
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| Qualified serves to note the real physical condition of a book that would otherwise be an incomplete 0.5. Because 0.5 doesn't tell you anything about the actual condition of a book. Your 6.0 is a perfect example of this. Had it been graded blue label incomplete you would have no idea of the actual condition, because the condition is clearly better than 0.5. | ||
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| CGC also uses green label for unwitnessed signatures. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego It certainly helps with that but it's not limited to that. You can find qualified grades where the exempt flaw is a cover detached at a single staple or a hole punch through the front cover. Flaws that significantly affect the grade but not necessarily ones that will condemn a book to a 0.5 |
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| Generally, missing pages are not going to get a green label, UNLESS the book is otherwise high grade. There's no point in having a green 3.0, generally (though they DO exist.) The nice feature of the Qualified grade is that it does give you an idea of the general condition of the book OTHER THAN that major flaw, as DL mentioned. I know some folks don't like it, and say "that's not the real grade!"...and they're 100% correct, which is exactly why, when you see that green label, you stop and say "ok, there's a problem with this book. What is it?" The green label just says "WARNING: This book LOOKS like an X.X, but be aware that there's a serious flaw you should know about." It's quite a nice feature, really. |
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| Still frosts me to this day when I bought a large amount of books from a dealer in 2008 at WWLA, and in that lot was a Mad #21 that was missing 6 of its 16 leaves. Of course, I paid for a COMPLETE copy. I was pretty peeved. |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown I had a Wonder Woman book in the twenties and a Sensation Comics book that I paid 3.0 - 4.5 prices for that were missing multiple pages at the centerfold. CBCS caught the error on the Wonder Woman but I was fortunate enough to catch the other one myself before slabbing it. |
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| "The green label of death" | ||
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jakernaught Purple label of death, green label of maiming. |
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| Don't PLOD your GLOMs people! | ||
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos GLOD: Green Label of Death. However, it's not quite as serious now that CBCS has VSP. |
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| Thank you Drchaos LMAO | ||
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| I vote for GLOM...Make it so. | ||
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Since it is a false grade, I prefer "Green Label Of Misinformation." |
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo There's nothing misinforming about it. All the information about the book is right there on the label. The grade is "Apparent", and it says that right beneath the grade number. That means "This book LOOKS LIKE an X.X, but it's not really, because of this flaw." It's one thing to not like it...that's perfectly legit...it's another to misrepresent it. Frankly, I don't understand why it's such an issue with some people...more information is better than less, and I can't think of many instances where that's not true...but hey, that's the way it goes. |
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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| @DocBrown - Honestly, Doc. Who wants a green label? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo I want a Hulk 181 green label (for missing MVS) just so that I can have a Hulk 181 in my collection again without spending a fortune. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo I look for signed green labels to flip into CBCS VSP.  |
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| Green labels usually contain books that are missing something. While I've come to appreciate the "what if" grade, they are also missing the real grade. Green Label of Deception. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo Lots of people. I have them myself. My interest in them is usually for signatures, for books that were part of a pre-slabbing, well known signing, like the Maxx ashcans, or Wildcats #1 Gold, or the Gen 13 #1 chromiums. But I'll happily take a book like, say, Detective Comics #40 that is missing a centerfold or somesuch, but otherwise looks quite nice. I'll probably have paid much less for it than a blue, and here's the kicker: I know there's a problem. In the bad old days, sellers sold books with missing things as "complete" all the time. And, if one doesn't like the green label, but prefers the MUCH lower price that it brings, the answer is simple: open the case and take the book out. It's ok to open slabs. |
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| There are many legit reasons to want a Qualified label. Example 1: I have a book missing one wrap that I'm looking for a cheap donor book to marry. Looking for a 0.5 tells me jackwagon about the actual condition of the donor pages, but a green label will tell the exact condition of the book. Example 2: I am looking for a cheap key missing the MVS, but I want the rest of the book in the best condition possible. A blue label won't tell me jack about the book condition. |
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