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Use to like millers art but jesus!?3775

Collector rckstr1253 private msg quote post Address this user
I use to love his art but man this is cruddy!
http://m.ebay.com/itm/FRANK-MILLER-ORIGINAL-Sketch-Art-CGC-9-8-Signed-DK-III-Superman-Batman-Supergirl-/272750582807?hash=item3f81339c17%3Ag%3AJNAAAOSwK6RZDmt5&_trkparms=pageci%253A8562ce46-724e-11e7-8908-74dbd18084aa%257Cparentrq%253A80eed81b15d0aa41562bc996fffaa1cb%257Ciid%253A11
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Yeah, his commissions are super janky.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
That one's actually not too bad considering some of his sketches I've seen


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Collector dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user
I kind of like that Supergirl, not for $3k though.

There have been threads about this before. His style has always been sketchy, loose and chaotic and he's about 20 years outside his prime. I like his work on Ronin & 300 as much as anything. Sin City and DKR too, but to a lesser extent.
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Collector steveo76 private msg quote post Address this user
I think it's pretty sweet. He's gone to a more abstract/exaggerated style. At first I didn't care for his work on DK III but then I saw it recolored and I completely changed my mind.
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COLLECTOR Stu private msg quote post Address this user
I see the signs of an underlying health condition at work here.
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Collector Savage_Spawn private msg quote post Address this user
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I think it's pretty sweet. He's gone to a more abstract/exaggerated style. At first I didn't care for his work on DK III but then I saw it recolored and I completely changed my mind.


At initial look it wasn't appealing. But I actually like it very much on second glance. There are so many generic supergirl drawings out there that make this strange comic book so unique looking. Price??? Noot getting the same vibe ........😎
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I hate these threads. I'm getting a Miller Daredevil sketch cover done next month and I'm nervous. My plan is to have Klaus Janson ink it. Janson has years of experience inking and refining Miller's pencils so my fingers are crossed. The quality of the work will determine if I keep it or not lol.
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Collector rckstr1253 private msg quote post Address this user
Hey to each his own. Im not telling others to hate it, but seriously i couldbt get passed how ugly it is to me. It might be me though, so no offense to anyone who does like it. I use to love his art but it looks less appealing to me.
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Collector AndyRexia private msg quote post Address this user
Yeah his work is hit or miss these days. The prices people are asking for them is unreal. It's MUCH cheaper to just have one made yourself. Maybe the high price comes from you will already know if it turned out good or not.
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I see the signs of an underlying health condition at work here.


Your medical opinion leads you to what condition?

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Yeah his work is hit or miss these days. The prices people are asking for them is unreal. It's MUCH cheaper to just have one made yourself. Maybe the high price comes from you will already know if it turned out good or not.


You can score Miller's sketches on eBay at prices lower or just at what a commission cost in auctions. You just have to have patience.
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COLLECTOR Stu private msg quote post Address this user
Osteoarthritis - just look at his older work compared to now. Not saying that he has it - just that it fits the difference/change in style.
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Collector Bontchimuz private msg quote post Address this user
I actually think his sketches are cool as hell looking but man those PRICES ARE ABSURD!!! lol
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Collector X51 private msg quote post Address this user
I only like Miller's use of perspective and light. I've never thought he was a good artist. Most of the art I did like was carried by the inking. If Miller retired today, I'd smile. I don't really even care for the misogynistic nature of his writing.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Miller has no plans to retire. He is working on Xerxes (the prequel to 300), and he has hinted at a DKIV.
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Miller has no plans to retire. He is working on Xerxes (the prequel to 300), and he has hinted at a DKIV.


He did more than hit at it in an inteview with Newsarama in November 2015 when chatting about DKIII and developing a DKIV.

"I thoroughly applaud what [Brian's] doing. But now that he's doing his, it's now a four-part series, I'm doing the fourth."
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
At SDCC they just announced that he's doing Superman: Year One with John Romita Jr.
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At SDCC they just announced that he's doing Superman: Year One with John Romita Jr.


That would be super!
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Collector jrs private msg quote post Address this user
I like the Wolvie sketch, actually.
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COLLECTOR JWKyle private msg quote post Address this user
I liked Miller on Daredevil. His sketches would make me nervous. What the going rate anyway?
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@JWKyle Trinity Comics recently had a sketch opp with him for $700 a pop
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Someone got a good buy on this one.

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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
Frank Miller is a Legendary Comic Book Icon NO DOUBT! But I never considered him as an elite artist. I agree that often times the ink work carried the load.

His appeal and popularity has always come from his provocative writing and Story telling.
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Frank Miller is a Legendary Comic Book Icon NO DOUBT! But I never considered him as an elite artist. I agree that often times the ink work carried the load.

His appeal and popularity has always come from his provocative writing and Story telling.


Were you reading comics in the late 70's / early 80's? Because he was a "hot" artist. Marvel used him as a go to cover artist and that was not by accident. He was even voted favorite penciler in the CBG fan awards.
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it! IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
Art is such a matter of taste. I try not to be particularly critical.

I've always enjoyed Miller's storytelling more than his art. Especially starting in the mid 80's and then definitely put on display with The Dark Knight Returns, his art just got both really "sketchy" and very dark and heavily inked. But his storytelling skills continually improved

My tastes in comic book art run more to clean strong lines and distinct images. When I see choppy art that looks unfinished, stylistic images where facial features aren't clear or anatomy is inaccurate I'm always wondering "is the artist striving for a certain style or that simply the best they can draw?"

So about the Supergirl image in question. Miller is trying to look like Miller. I get that. Could Miller draw a clean and bold and anatomically correct Supergirl like Adam Hughes or Neal Adams IF HE WANTED TO? Because I'm pretty sure Adams or Hughes could sketch something left handed in 60 seconds that looked like this.
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Collector OrbitCityComics private msg quote post Address this user
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Frank Miller is a Legendary Comic Book Icon NO DOUBT! But I never considered him as an elite artist. I agree that often times the ink work carried the load.

His appeal and popularity has always come from his provocative writing and Story telling.


Were you reading comics in the late 70's / early 80's? Because he was a "hot" artist. Marvel used him as a go to cover artist and that was not by accident. He was even voted favorite penciler in the CBG fan awards.


Popularity doesn't equal quality or greatness.

The Pussy Cat Dolls sold over 6 million albums, AND won several awards.

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who considers them to be serious artists.

I believe Miller's work, like any artist in comics, to be hit and miss. His best days are behind him, and it seems the best he can do is rehash old storylines.

One of things that made Miller great in his heyday is the fact he would take B-List characters and take big chances with them. He stopped taking chances, and in the process he lost the one thing that really made him great.
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Frank Miller is a Legendary Comic Book Icon NO DOUBT! But I never considered him as an elite artist. I agree that often times the ink work carried the load.

His appeal and popularity has always come from his provocative writing and Story telling.


Were you reading comics in the late 70's / early 80's? Because he was a "hot" artist. Marvel used him as a go to cover artist and that was not by accident. He was even voted favorite penciler in the CBG fan awards.


Popularity doesn't equal quality or greatness.

The Pussy Cat Dolls sold over 6 million albums, AND won several awards.

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who considers them to be serious artists.

I believe Miller's work, like any artist in comics, to be hit and miss. His best days are behind him, and it seems the best he can do is rehash old storylines.

One of things that made Miller great in his heyday is the fact he would take B-List characters and take big chances with them. He stopped taking chances, and in the process he lost the one thing that really made him great.


Wasn't arguing about Millers greatness brah. He said his appeal and popularity came from his writing and storytelling and that's just revisionist hogwash. He was a VERY popular artist...popular enough that Marvel used him as a go to cover artist and he was voted the Comic Buyers Guide fan awards Favorite Artist in 1982 ( when those awards carried some weight ).
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it! IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944
Frank Miller is a Legendary Comic Book Icon NO DOUBT! But I never considered him as an elite artist. I agree that often times the ink work carried the load.

His appeal and popularity has always come from his provocative writing and Story telling.


Were you reading comics in the late 70's / early 80's? Because he was a "hot" artist. Marvel used him as a go to cover artist and that was not by accident. He was even voted favorite penciler in the CBG fan awards.


Popularity doesn't equal quality or greatness.

The Pussy Cat Dolls sold over 6 million albums, AND won several awards.

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who considers them to be serious artists.

I believe Miller's work, like any artist in comics, to be hit and miss. His best days are behind him, and it seems the best he can do is rehash old storylines.

One of things that made Miller great in his heyday is the fact he would take B-List characters and take big chances with them. He stopped taking chances, and in the process he lost the one thing that really made him great.


Don't be talkin sheet about the Pussycat Dolls now Don't you wish your girlfriend was as hot as them?
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Originally Posted by BigRedOne1944
Frank Miller is a Legendary Comic Book Icon NO DOUBT! But I never considered him as an elite artist. I agree that often times the ink work carried the load.

His appeal and popularity has always come from his provocative writing and Story telling.


Were you reading comics in the late 70's / early 80's? Because he was a "hot" artist. Marvel used him as a go to cover artist and that was not by accident. He was even voted favorite penciler in the CBG fan awards.


Popularity doesn't equal quality or greatness.

The Pussy Cat Dolls sold over 6 million albums, AND won several awards.

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who considers them to be serious artists.

I believe Miller's work, like any artist in comics, to be hit and miss. His best days are behind him, and it seems the best he can do is rehash old storylines.

One of things that made Miller great in his heyday is the fact he would take B-List characters and take big chances with them. He stopped taking chances, and in the process he lost the one thing that really made him great.


Don't be talkin sheet about the Pussycat Dolls now Don't you wish your girlfriend was as hot as them?


Misses Orbit is much hotter than all of them put together.

I'd get in trouble if I said anything less.
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One of things that made Miller great in his heyday is the fact he would take B-List characters and take big chances with them. He stopped taking chances, and in the process he lost the one thing that really made him great.


He went into semi-retirement and when he came out the comic landscape had changed. Marvel and DC would never allow him or another author the freedom they allowed him on Daredevil or Batman in today's world.
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