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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
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@DarthLego they really glued all four sides? Isn't that a huge no-no in terms of comics drowning in their own gas?

That was my thought too, but I've been told by others here they are not sealed airtight.
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Collector Odvar private msg quote post Address this user
Is this from their old slabs?
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
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Is this from their old slabs?

to what are you referring?
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Collector Odvar private msg quote post Address this user
@DarthLego your slab that was glued from CGC, was it their old ones?
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
@Odvar no, it's their new slab that is sealed on 4 sides. The old slab can pull apart on the sides just like a CBCS slab.
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@Odvar no, it's their new slab that is sealed on 4 sides. The old slab can pull apart on the sides just like a CBCS slab.


That makes no sense. The micro paper wasnt needed because their slab isnt sealed. So they get rid of the paper and seal the slab? Wth?
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CGC books sell higher because CBCS sellers get impatient and undercut themselves and the competition. Buyers always bargain hunt, so which slab will they buy, the one on sale of course. But that CGC book will always sit longer than the guy willing to undercut for fast cash.


Thank god for impatient sellers. I've bought many CBCS slabs at great prices!! But don't tell anybody.


I just won a CBCS book at auction that was on my hit list. Comic link had a CGC and CBCS 9.2 of the same book for auction and the CBCS book ended up going for $1 more then the CGC book. So I would say yes as a general statement CGC books usually bring more but that's not always true.

I will say once CBCS gets more collecting tools up and running it will help their brand grow.


I have sold one CBCS book in recent months. An Avengers 144 in 9.2. GPA was $160.00. It sold for $102.00 in auction.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
@shrewbeer the need for MCP has been questionable anyway. They sealed all four sides, but the slab is not airtight according to reports. Supposedly someone dunked one in water, but I haven't seen this.
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@shrewbeer the need for MCP has been questionable anyway. They sealed all four sides, but the slab is not airtight according to reports. Supposedly someone dunked one in water, but I haven't seen this.

There have been many documented cases of books receiving water damage even inside the slab, IIRC Gary (Moondog) on the CGC boards had this happen to him.
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Collector Odvar private msg quote post Address this user
If you dunk your slab into water, then yeah you will have water damage. I don't think it says anywhere that any slab from any company is air tight sealed, which is why they say that there is an expiration for the slabs themselves. CBCS says to keep your slabs in a low lit and room temperature (dry) area.
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If you dunk your slab into water, then yeah you will have water damage. I don't think it says anywhere that any slab from any company is air tight sealed, which is why they say that there is an expiration for the slabs themselves. CBCS says to keep your slabs in a low lit and room temperature (dry) area.


These weren't dunked slabs, but ones that sat in enough water (temporarily) to create wicking and damage.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
@Odvar slabs do not have an expiration date. The old CGC slabs had a recommendation of reslabbing every 7 years because that is the absorption life of Microchamber Paper. After 7 years the paper will no longer absorb gasses. Since both companies now have decided MCP is not really a benefit, slab lifetimes are almost indefinite if stored and cared for properly.
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@DarthLego Ahhhhhhhh, gotachaaa. That makes sense. So there shouldn't be any water breaking into the slab.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Wait what? Never said that. Slabs are not airtight or waterproof.
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Collector Odvar private msg quote post Address this user
@DarthLego Why not? They should be.
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I have sold one CBCS book in recent months. An Avengers 144 in 9.2. GPA was $160.00. It sold for $102.00 in auction.


I know when you sell something you always want to top out and get close to the highest selling price but I just pulled these sales up from 3 months ago on go collect for auctions. So the price that you got going the auction route seems pretty in line. I will say the Fixed price way looks to be the best way to get the full potential out of any book as long as your willing to wait.







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Wait what? Never said that. Slabs are not airtight or waterproof.


So slabs are not air proof either?
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
If CGC really is sealing their slabs, that's yet another reason for me not to buy them. No ventilation means a nice white page book will be off-white much quicker 😬
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If CGC really is sealing their slabs, that's yet another reason for me not to buy them. No ventilation means a nice white page book will be off-white much quicker 😬

Agree. I read something about their new plastic is supposed to be more breathable. Breathable plastic? What sorcery is this?
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Collector Odvar private msg quote post Address this user
I say wrap it up in duct tape but that's just me.
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@DarthLego Why not? They should be.

Actually that would be bad for the comic book. Paper that is not allowed to breath will degrade in it's own gasses.
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I have always heard to stay away from PGX but no-one seems to know why. I've seen the ninja turtle video and examples of their generous grades. But CGC has more shenanigans than that and people flock to them. I haven't even seen a reason why CBCS disregards PGX, they just do. I don't own any PGX myself, but I can see how people get tired of hearing bad things about PGX yet no-one has any solid reason to dismiss them.

I wish someone would make an official announcement on why to keep clear of PGX. It would help a lot of people out and the next time a fellow collector asks me why not to use PGX I can tell them. Instead of just saying, "that's what everybody says but no-one seems to know why"


No one seems to know why...? Who are you talking to? Many people know why PGX should be avoided. PGX has been caught colluding with various people in their Oregon area to actively defraud buyers.

Read and learn:

http://www.justafanboy.com/PGX/

CGC hasn't done anything close to that, much less "more."

That's not theory, that's not competitive malfeasance, it's verifiable fraud.

One ought to do one's research before defending something and calling into question the official positions of CGC, CBCS, and others.
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Oops. Looks like it was already brought up. Good.
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Collector Odvar private msg quote post Address this user
@DocBrown you should read and learn before making such accusations.
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Wait what? Never said that. Slabs are not airtight or waterproof.


So slabs are not air proof either?




I think they talked about this in the link that Odvar posted:



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Maybe I am reading it wrong. It's iffy. Here is a link to where I am reading this.

https://www.cgccomics.com/grading/holder-faq.asp
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@DocBrown you should read and learn before making such accusations.


Which accusations would that be...?
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
It's like some of you can't understand English.

Or, just too lazy to read anything more than a headline here and there.
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@DocBrown you should read and learn before making such accusations.


Which accusations would that be...?


You accused poor ole mattness of defending PGX. He wasn't. He just wanted some clarity. Besides I was just messing you in my previous comment.
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If CGC really is sealing their slabs, that's yet another reason for me not to buy them. No ventilation means a nice white page book will be off-white much quicker 😬

Agree. I read something about their new plastic is supposed to be more breathable. Breathable plastic? What sorcery is this?
So magic plastic
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It's like some of you can't understand English.

Or, just too lazy to read anything more than a headline here and there.



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