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Collector 243	243 Odvar private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	So, I did read something interesting about PGX taking in comics and bringing them to conventions for people to sign if you weren't going to be there. Can anyone confirm this?
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Collector* 10.54K	10.54K Towmater private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 5
	Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really. We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved. I got a warning about something I did. I stopped doing it. Why? I wanted to remain a part of the community and not be a pariah to the mods by continuing to challenge their authority. Sometimes people just can't let things go. They come across as being delusional when they continue to post in the way that they have been warned about continuously in the past. Example, I think that I made the best case I could about what was bothering me last week. It fell on deaf ears. To have continued to take up the charge would have turned those that showed some empathy for my reaction in a different direction. It would have done more damage than good.
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Collector 2.42K	2.42K Logan510 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really. We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved. Absolutely! It's important for any business to protect its interests, or it doesn't long remain in business. That said, businesses are still made up of people, and people do things they shouldn't, including things that might be contrary to the interests of the company. It's important to treat every customer and potential customer with respect, by being open to criticism (how else will they improve?), and treating everyone with courtesy and dignity by applying the rules consistently to all, all the time, regardless of one's personal feelings. That is success! And if all else fails, rant, rave and make vile comments about people here elsewhere as opposed to telling them how you really feel. I'm not sure I know to what you're referring, but as shrewbeer said, this is a BUSINESS website, and it's not appropriate...or welcome...to be completely honest with how someone "really feels", especially when people have, themselves, been vile in their own behavior. There are places that are appropriate for those kinds of conversations...this is not one of them, understandably so. For those in the know, the bolded is all anyone really needs to see Might I ask to what you're referring, so we're not all in the dark...? After all, isn't your point about how people are supposed to be honest about how they really feel...? OK, you post some pretty vile things on another message board about several members who post on this board. Things that you would probably never have the courage to say to someone directly. I would post direct links but I know those would get deleted. Are "we" not in the dark now? Or would you like to continue your hypocrisy?
	8 years ago	Post 328 • IP flag post

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Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really.

We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved.

I got a warning about something I did. I stopped doing it. Why? I wanted to remain a part of the community and not be a pariah to the mods by continuing to challenge their authority.

Do you mean NOT be a pariah...?

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Sometimes people just can't let things go. They come across as being delusional when they continue to post in the way that they have been warned about continuously in the past. Example, I think that I made the best case I could about what was bothering me last week. It fell on deaf ears. To have continued to take up the charge would have turned those that showed some empathy for my reaction in a different direction. It would have done more damage than good.

True, one must pick their battles. If everyone behaved in good faith, avoided those they don't like (instead of passive-aggressively trying to provoke them), and didn't take offense when someone corrected them or disagreed with them, all problems would disappear. "Live and let live."

But, some folks just can't do that, and that's unfortunate.

Anger ----> hate ----> suffering.

8 years ago

I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. 27.13K	27.13K kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 OK, you post some pretty vile things on another message board about several members who post on this board. Things that you would probably never have the courage to say to someone directly. I would post direct links but I know those would get deleted. I'd like to see that, actually.
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Collector 87	87 PeteN private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by PeteN Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown And for those of you making these claims of "bad faith! UNETHICAL!!!", you better be informing your customers, and telling everyone else to inform their customers, of all these instances of OPINION changes. "Well, CBCS graded this 9.2, but I called them up and asked them to review it, so they gave it a 9.4." "Well, CGC graded this a 6.5, but I don't think it's any better than a 5.0, so bid accordingly." "Well, CBCS graded this a 9.4, but I cracked and pressed it, and it came back a 9.2, so I'll crack it and offer it as a 9.4, since that's what it was." "Well, this was a CGC 8.5, but I had it pressed, and now it's a 9.2. I think it should have gone to 9.4." "Well, this was a CBCS 7.0, but I cracked it, had it pressed, and removed some significant pencil scribbles on the back cover, and now you can't even tell they were there, so it's a 9.2." "Well, I pressed this book, but I overhydrated it, so it has some substantial waves to it that it didn't have before...but CGC and CBCS didn't count off much for it, so bid accordingly." To be logically consistent, you would have to say all of this, you better be disclosing ALL of this, or you're "withholding information" and "being deceptive" and "hiding things." Because, after all, customers can't be relied upon to come to their own conclusions about grades...right? Choosing not to include someone else's APPRAISAL of the condition of an item that you don't agree with IS NOT DECEPTION. Only those who are label slaves, or have agendas, would say otherwise. Doc Brown...I'm not an expert on grading, but are you saying if you get a grade of 9.4 from say CBCS or CGC you are able to call them and have them review it again because you are not happy? And do you get charged for this? I'm sorry if that's common knowledge, I didn't know that was possible...my second question would be does this work? have you seen grade bumps this way? Thanks. First question: I don't know about CBCS, as I haven't done it, but I assume it works the same way. With CGC, if something gets graded lower than you think it should, you can contact CGC and ask them to review it. If the book is still in their system, they might do it free of charge, but you can always pay the...I think it's $12 now...to have them review a book, even long after it was graded. Second question: yes, I've called in to CGC and asked them to review. This must be done sparingly, or you risk becoming a nuisance, but it can be done. I can't emphasize this enough: it should be done VERY sparingly, and only if you really believe in the grade. I've done it for about 15 books, out of 3-4k subbed. Or, you can simply crack the book out, send it in under a higher grade pre-screen, and see if it passes. I've had about 100 books done this way, and roughly 85 of them have passed. I suspect some might think that's "unethical", though...after all, it's not the "true" grade...right? thanks for the info doc brown!
	8 years ago	Post 331 • IP flag post

Collector 16.89K	16.89K DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really. We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved. Absolutely! It's important for any business to protect its interests, or it doesn't long remain in business. That said, businesses are still made up of people, and people do things they shouldn't, including things that might be contrary to the interests of the company. It's important to treat every customer and potential customer with respect, by being open to criticism (how else will they improve?), and treating everyone with courtesy and dignity by applying the rules consistently to all, all the time, regardless of one's personal feelings. That is success! And if all else fails, rant, rave and make vile comments about people here elsewhere as opposed to telling them how you really feel. I'm not sure I know to what you're referring, but as shrewbeer said, this is a BUSINESS website, and it's not appropriate...or welcome...to be completely honest with how someone "really feels", especially when people have, themselves, been vile in their own behavior. There are places that are appropriate for those kinds of conversations...this is not one of them, understandably so. For those in the know, the bolded is all anyone really needs to see Might I ask to what you're referring, so we're not all in the dark...? After all, isn't your point about how people are supposed to be honest about how they really feel...? OK, you post some pretty vile things on another message board about several members who post on this board. Things that you would probably never have the courage to say to someone directly. I would post direct links but I know those would get deleted. Are "we" not in the dark now? Or would you like to continue your hypocrisy? See, this is the kind of thing that isn't appropriate here. If you have a personal issue with someone, you should deal with it privately, or elsewhere where it is appropriate, rather than casting aspersions on them where it isn't (here.) If you "know those would get deleted", that should be your hint that these things aren't appropriate.
	8 years ago	Post 332 • IP flag post

Collector* 10.54K	10.54K Towmater private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Towmater Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really. We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved. I got a warning about something I did. I stopped doing it. Why? I wanted to remain a part of the community and not be a pariah to the mods by continuing to challenge their authority. Do you mean NOT be a pariah...? I fixed that before you posted. But thanks, Mr. Grammer guy.
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.

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Originally Posted by Towmater

I got a warning about something I did. I stopped doing it. Why? I wanted to remain a part of the community and not be a pariah to the mods by continuing to challenge their authority.

Well said.

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I think that I made the best case I could about what was bothering me last week. It fell on deaf ears.

Those who heard you, heard you, and respect you for that opinion.

8 years ago

Collector 243	243 Odvar private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Odvar So, I did read something interesting about PGX taking in comics and bringing them to conventions for people to sign if you weren't going to be there. Can anyone confirm this? In case anyone missed my question that is aimed at the foundation of this post.
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Collector* 10.54K	10.54K Towmater private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by kaptainmyke Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 OK, you post some pretty vile things on another message board about several members who post on this board. Things that you would probably never have the courage to say to someone directly. I would post direct links but I know those would get deleted. I'd like to see that, actually. There is a hidden place somewhere on the internet that one can go to. There you can see it if you post enough first and are allowed entry.
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Collector 16.89K	16.89K DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by PeteN thanks for the info doc brown! You bet!
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Collector 87	87 PeteN private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Odvar So, I did read something interesting about PGX taking in comics and bringing them to conventions for people to sign if you weren't going to be there. Can anyone confirm this? Odvar they did it at las vegas this year...CGC also did something like that at SD Con...I just dropped off my campbell books and they took care of everything. Convenient service.
	8 years ago	Post 338 • IP flag post

Collector 16.89K	16.89K DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Towmater Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Towmater Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really. We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved. I got a warning about something I did. I stopped doing it. Why? I wanted to remain a part of the community and not be a pariah to the mods by continuing to challenge their authority. Do you mean NOT be a pariah...? I fixed that before you posted. But thanks, Mr. Grammer guy. Just making sure we're all communicating with each other. How many "conflicts" are functions of simple misunderstandings...? ("Grammar"... )
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Collector 2.42K	2.42K Logan510 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really. We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved. Absolutely! It's important for any business to protect its interests, or it doesn't long remain in business. That said, businesses are still made up of people, and people do things they shouldn't, including things that might be contrary to the interests of the company. It's important to treat every customer and potential customer with respect, by being open to criticism (how else will they improve?), and treating everyone with courtesy and dignity by applying the rules consistently to all, all the time, regardless of one's personal feelings. That is success! And if all else fails, rant, rave and make vile comments about people here elsewhere as opposed to telling them how you really feel. I'm not sure I know to what you're referring, but as shrewbeer said, this is a BUSINESS website, and it's not appropriate...or welcome...to be completely honest with how someone "really feels", especially when people have, themselves, been vile in their own behavior. There are places that are appropriate for those kinds of conversations...this is not one of them, understandably so. For those in the know, the bolded is all anyone really needs to see Might I ask to what you're referring, so we're not all in the dark...? After all, isn't your point about how people are supposed to be honest about how they really feel...? OK, you post some pretty vile things on another message board about several members who post on this board. Things that you would probably never have the courage to say to someone directly. I would post direct links but I know those would get deleted. Are "we" not in the dark now? Or would you like to continue your hypocrisy? See, this is the kind of thing that isn't appropriate here. If you have a personal issue with someone, you should deal with it privately, or elsewhere where it is appropriate, rather than casting aspersions on them where it isn't (here.) If you "know those would get deleted", that should be your hint that these things aren't appropriate. You asked, I answered, interesting concept, no? I guess you'd rather continue the hypocrisy.
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Collector 243	243 Odvar private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by PeteN Quote: Originally Posted by Odvar So, I did read something interesting about PGX taking in comics and bringing them to conventions for people to sign if you weren't going to be there. Can anyone confirm this? Odvar they did it at las vegas this year...CGC also did something like that at SD Con...I just dropped off my campbell books and they took care of everything. Convenient service. Does CBCS do this? I would definitely pay the extra money to have them get signatures for me.
	8 years ago	Post 341 • IP flag post

Collector 16.89K	16.89K DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really. We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved. Absolutely! It's important for any business to protect its interests, or it doesn't long remain in business. That said, businesses are still made up of people, and people do things they shouldn't, including things that might be contrary to the interests of the company. It's important to treat every customer and potential customer with respect, by being open to criticism (how else will they improve?), and treating everyone with courtesy and dignity by applying the rules consistently to all, all the time, regardless of one's personal feelings. That is success! And if all else fails, rant, rave and make vile comments about people here elsewhere as opposed to telling them how you really feel. I'm not sure I know to what you're referring, but as shrewbeer said, this is a BUSINESS website, and it's not appropriate...or welcome...to be completely honest with how someone "really feels", especially when people have, themselves, been vile in their own behavior. There are places that are appropriate for those kinds of conversations...this is not one of them, understandably so. For those in the know, the bolded is all anyone really needs to see Might I ask to what you're referring, so we're not all in the dark...? After all, isn't your point about how people are supposed to be honest about how they really feel...? OK, you post some pretty vile things on another message board about several members who post on this board. Things that you would probably never have the courage to say to someone directly. I would post direct links but I know those would get deleted. Are "we" not in the dark now? Or would you like to continue your hypocrisy? See, this is the kind of thing that isn't appropriate here. If you have a personal issue with someone, you should deal with it privately, or elsewhere where it is appropriate, rather than casting aspersions on them where it isn't (here.) If you "know those would get deleted", that should be your hint that these things aren't appropriate. You asked, I answered, interesting concept, no? I guess you'd rather continue the hypocrisy. I'd rather continue the conversation where it's appropriate...the public space of this message board isn't that place. I'm sure that can be agreed to by all?
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. 30.61K	30.61K drchaos private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@Odvar Matt at Trinity Comics can hook you up.
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COLLECTOR 20.52K	20.52K DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	@Odvar No, but Trinity Comics does this and witnesses for CBCS.
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Collector 16.89K	16.89K DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quick question...who is "Trinity Comics"? Where are they located? Are they a store?
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Collector 243	243 Odvar private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	@DarthLego forgive me, why Trinity comics? I am just not familiar with the process.
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COLLECTOR 20.52K	20.52K DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	http://www.trinity-comics.com/
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Collector 87	87 PeteN private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Odvar Quote: Originally Posted by PeteN Quote: Originally Posted by Odvar So, I did read something interesting about PGX taking in comics and bringing them to conventions for people to sign if you weren't going to be there. Can anyone confirm this? Odvar they did it at las vegas this year...CGC also did something like that at SD Con...I just dropped off my campbell books and they took care of everything. Convenient service. Does CBCS do this? I would definitely pay the extra money to have them get signatures for me. I'm not sure about CBCS, I didn't see a list or anything at their booth at SD con...CGC had a list of a few folks you could do that for...I got sigs from campbell and adam hughes that way. I think they also offered Liefeld...and there were a few more.
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. 30.61K	30.61K drchaos private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	@DocBrown They are a CBCS facilitator located in Washington DC. I am on my way to the post office to pick up my SDCC signed books they helped me with.
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	I'm on my phone and trying to navigate around it. I will have to look them up when I can sit at a computer.
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COLLECTOR 20.52K	20.52K DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Matt at Trinity does witness facilitating for various Cons throughout the year, send your books to him for a con he has scheduled, he gets them signed and sent to CBCS.
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Collector 1.98K	1.98K comic_book_man private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Odvar So, I did read something interesting about PGX taking in comics and bringing them to conventions for people to sign if you weren't going to be there. Can anyone confirm this? I think they can do this yes, sort of like how Desert Winds did(or does?). I think your best bet would be to call them. Maybe report back after you get a verdict.
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Collector 16.89K	16.89K DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos @DocBrown They are a CBCS facilitator located in Washington DC. I am on my way to the post office to pick up my SDCC signed books they helped me with. No store? I checked out the website, but it doesn't tell me who they are, outside of being facilitators.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by Logan510 Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Mods have told me in the past to stop doing something. I stopped doing that something. Pretty simple really. We are hanging out on a business' website. The mods must defend the wall, they need to protect the brand over all else; and they should. Even if that means stomping on someone for what may seem to others as undeserved. Absolutely! It's important for any business to protect its interests, or it doesn't long remain in business. That said, businesses are still made up of people, and people do things they shouldn't, including things that might be contrary to the interests of the company. It's important to treat every customer and potential customer with respect, by being open to criticism (how else will they improve?), and treating everyone with courtesy and dignity by applying the rules consistently to all, all the time, regardless of one's personal feelings. That is success! And if all else fails, rant, rave and make vile comments about people here elsewhere as opposed to telling them how you really feel. I'm not sure I know to what you're referring, but as shrewbeer said, this is a BUSINESS website, and it's not appropriate...or welcome...to be completely honest with how someone "really feels", especially when people have, themselves, been vile in their own behavior. There are places that are appropriate for those kinds of conversations...this is not one of them, understandably so. For those in the know, the bolded is all anyone really needs to see Might I ask to what you're referring, so we're not all in the dark...? After all, isn't your point about how people are supposed to be honest about how they really feel...? OK, you post some pretty vile things on another message board about several members who post on this board. Things that you would probably never have the courage to say to someone directly. I would post direct links but I know those would get deleted. Are "we" not in the dark now? Or would you like to continue your hypocrisy? See, this is the kind of thing that isn't appropriate here. If you have a personal issue with someone, you should deal with it privately, or elsewhere where it is appropriate, rather than casting aspersions on them where it isn't (here.) If you "know those would get deleted", that should be your hint that these things aren't appropriate. You asked, I answered, interesting concept, no? I guess you'd rather continue the hypocrisy. I'd rather continue the conversation where it's appropriate...the public space of this message board isn't that place. I'm sure that can be agreed to by all? Sure, go ahead and PM me. Maybe you can PM everyone here you've had something to say about in your safe space.
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	This would be very beneficial if CBCS had a service like this, but it would cause them to have more liability with insurers and beef up their staff.
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