HOW TO SPOT SHILL BIDDERS ? ? ? | CBCS Comics

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Originally Posted by vabchgent
So bids where private listing -bidders identities protected are involved are probably good for this, I have been bidding on a book and know what it should go for around or about and right now its about 40.00 higher than the round about price.

I was going to bid on a book and saw that the bids were private listing and didn't show bidder identities. I asked on the board if this would be considered shill bids since it was masking the bidders and the response I received was that due to the bid amounts that it didn't seem like fake bids. I always felt that if I can't see who I'm bidding against, even if it's just some letters with some "*" in between , that I may be bidding against the seller of the book.

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Originally Posted by shrewbeer
@Finley2020 the way to go there is offer the seller what your highest bid was before the high (shill) bidder got involved. That'll really stick in their craw, but it's the legit price of the auction.

That's good to keep in mind for next time. I got so caught up in getting the book that even when he came back with absolute highest bid I went for it. I most likely could have saved $30 or so had I done it the right way.

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Originally Posted by DarthLego
That's bs because a seller can block zero feedback buyers in their settings. If a seller excepts buyers by not setting that then they would be breaking a contact by backing out, that is assuming they are being truthful about the reason, which is sketchy because of the reason I just stated. Either way, bad form on the seller.

Agreed. Given how unorthodox the whole thing felt and his lack of a communication or even tracking number made me pretty nervous. Altogether it was stupid on my part to even try it and I think I just got lucky this time.

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	do you believe this is accurate
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Collector 220	220 verbogyrater private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	I always wonder if ebay analyzes the same bids of this sort.
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Collector 4.79K	4.79K Darkga private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Auctions with private bidder lists are a dead giveaway. One dude relisted something I wanted four freaking times after the auction had been "won" each time.
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Collector 2.54K	2.54K Themaxx35 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Hmmm - I just tried this out with some of the items I bought from a seller that is my go to. Saw some suspicious bids now that I know what to look for.
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COLLECTOR 13.26K	13.26K shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	that example this guy used is hilarious. I've never actually looked at other bidders while an auction was going on, I'll have to start doing that. One sure-fire way to know if you have been shilled and the seller got caught with his pants down is if you get a second chance offer within 24 hours of losing an auction. I'm sure there's exceptions, but sales don't fall through that quickly lol
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COLLECTOR 3.77K	3.77K Foghorn_Sam private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Yes, a next day second chance offer is more than suspicious. It takes me eight days to clear an item for resale if the winning bidder doesn't pay if I have to go all the way through the process. Now I have had some winning bidders tell me they don't want to go through with the transaction within a few days of winning, but in 12 years of selling hundreds of items, I think I can count on one hand how many times that's happened.
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	Quote: Originally Posted by Themaxx35 Can you report shill bidding to eBay, or is that practice fair game according to their rules? I doubt the phillipino reps care too much with all the other complaints they have to listen to.
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COLLECTOR 20.52K	20.52K DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 4
	Quote: Originally Posted by Themaxx35 Can you report shill bidding to eBay, or is that practice fair game according to their rules? Yes, you can. On every listing there is a report link. There will be a few drop menus to select the reason for the report, there is one specifically for the seller using other accounts to artificially inflate the sale price.
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Collector 490	490 vabchgent private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	So bids where private listing -bidders identities protected are involved are probably good for this, I have been bidding on a book and know what it should go for around or about and right now its about 40.00 higher than the round about price.
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Collector 8.04K	8.04K Drogio private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quote: Originally Posted by DarthLego @Themaxx35 it should be. I've never had eBay even follow up with me on any reports I've made. Maybe the reports go into their spam folders..."thank you for your interest...your feedback is very important to us..."
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	Quote: Originally Posted by vabchgent So bids where private listing -bidders identities protected are involved are probably good for this, I have been bidding on a book and know what it should go for around or about and right now its about 40.00 higher than the round about price. I was going to bid on a book and saw that the bids were private listing and didn't show bidder identities. I asked on the board if this would be considered shill bids since it was masking the bidders and the response I received was that due to the bid amounts that it didn't seem like fake bids. I always felt that if I can't see who I'm bidding against, even if it's just some letters with some "*" in between , that I may be bidding against the seller of the book.
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Collector 10	10 Finley2020 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	I always hated getting outbid on an item that saw ZERO action until the last 30 seconds. Next day sure enough there is the Second Chance offer. Once I was bidding on a nice graded ASM#101 (Morbius first appearance) and lost. The seller contacted me and told me that the winner had zero feedback and that he would rather sell it to me for my highest bid. It smacked of a scam every which way but since I was actually WILLING to pay my highest bid I OKed it. That was a very anxious week until my book finally arrived in tact. Needless to say my wife knew none of this
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Collector 1.87K	1.87K ONLINE_209 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	to me it is a double-edged sword on one hand they can click on your name and see your 30-Day Bid History which could help them to determine if you would be willing to try and outbid a shiller on the other hand it also helps you to spot a potential shiller
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