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| I know CBCS mentions to remove the comic from the polybag, but they also mention that you can send them in while still sealed in the bag. I was wondering if CBCS takes into consideration comics that are sent in while still sealed in their polybag? And if so, does it help the grade or is it noted? I personally think it should be noted, as it helps the value of the comic. | ||
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I believe they remove it from the bag and grade it like any other comic. You may not even get the bag back. No benefit to sending it with a polybag. | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It won't effect the grade, but there is "polybag removed" label notation. | ||
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Odvar private msg quote post Address this user | |
| That's actually good to know that they note that on the label. | ||
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| What value does that add other than to let someone know it used to be in a plastic bag, and now it is not. Weird. | ||
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Odvar private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Because the thought of it being untouched and then handled directly through a grading and slabbing would be appealing to any buyer. | ||
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The grade is the grade. The note, i believe, is just identifying the original was in a polybag when originally sold off the shelf, and not necessarily a note that they removed the bag. If you send it in without The bag 20 years after removal, I bet you get the same label note. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by OdvarI wouldn't put so much stock in that line of reasoning. Polybagged books can still be damaged and books that have been handled and read can still get 9.8s. In fact, many buyers prefer being able to see into the book to check for damage, page quality, etc, all of which can still be an issue despite being locked in a polybag, which are usually made to keep people from reading the book or to keep free-floating items with the book, not necessarily to protect it the way a CBCS slab is |
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Odvar private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @dielinfinite this is definitely true. | ||
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JWKyle private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Polybags can damage the book in the long run. If you take a book out that has been in a long box for years with a lot of pressure it will leave a line indented on the book from where the seam of the bag was. This indent can be pressed out for sure but if you send a 20 plus year old book still in the bag and have a grading company grade it you are rolling the dice | ||
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 Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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IronMan private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by JWKyle Ultimate Fallout #4. The seam right down the middle of the back cover. Brutal |
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| Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the poly bag a part of the comic book sale? And if it's part of the comic book and that part is missing shouldn't it have a different label and or grade? Just a suggestion: Since it's part of the sale why not have it slabbed also as part 1 of 2 and part 2 of 2. The comic book would be part 1 of 2 and the poly bag part 2 of 2. With sports and non sports cards the package or wrapper has value as a collectable why wouldn't the poly bag? And depending of the way it was cut to remove the comic book the bag could be graded also. |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It's plastic trash. | ||
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Odvar private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Rafel That's kind of the point I was wondering. |
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dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Rafel You're talking bout two different concepts from one sentence to the next then proceeding as if they were the same thing. Grading deals with the "comic book" because "the sale" can be a million different things and detucting points from the comic because of the presence (or not) of an entirely separate item makes no sense. If a comic is bundled with a dvd, should the comic's grade be affected because the dvd is scratched? What if it's included in a cereal box and I eat the cereal? What if the book is sealed with another book? Often the polybag is opaque so you can't even see the comic while it is sealed. The constant is the comic book, as it is manufactured, and that is what is graded. What the market considers "valuable" is up to the market but grading is not interested in the market, it is interested in objectively assessing the condition of the comic book. If there are other ephemera that were included as part of "the sale" they may often be mentioned on the label but it is not a part of the book and thus do not affect the grade. If the market finds these pack-ins valuable then they are free to place a premium on books that include them alongside the graded book (which they do, for example, in the case of the golden records reprints) or they can purchase a raw copy but the grade of the book is the grade of the book. |
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comicsforme private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I have 4 Spiderman #1 silver sent to cbcs and they knew which one had bag and ones not and they noted it on my slab. I took my bag out years age and the same with Death of Superman. | ||
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Odvar private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by comicsforme You just answered all my questions. In all, in doesn't matter if you send them in bagged or not, they will know. |
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comicsforme private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yes | ||
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Rafel private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite So in grading it makes no difference. But what about re-selling one in the poly bag compared to selling one removed from the bag? Does this make a difference? |
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Rafel Subjective based on the buyer. Some buyers will see value in an unopened bag since they are becoming more rare as time moves on. However the bag will not preserve a comic liked Mylar or slab...so some buyers prefer to see it out of the bag so the true condition can be established and preserved properly. I suggest looking at some prices on eBay to get a better feel on the values of either situation. |
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Just did a quick lookup. Bagged copies of Spider-Man #1 (1990) go for $10 or less near mint, while graded 9.8 copies (obviously un aged) are selling around $50. | ||
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Odvar private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yeah, I have a complete set of polybag Return of the Jedi 76 cent variants. My original post is lossely based around those comics that I have, which is why I was curious. | ||
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comicsforme private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Not bagged all 3 | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm curious how CBCS knows which silver Spider-Man #1s had a bag when the bag is not present? Do they have different barcodes? Different indicia? | ||
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Odvar private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It probably has to do with the barcode | ||
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