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COLLECTOR Towmater private msg quote post Address this user
Bleeding cool published an article on the 15th entitled

DC Comics Liquidates Rare Variant Covers Including 1:300 Jim Lee Sketch Covers

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The article shows that DC is dumping a supply of variants that are a few years old to your LCS at the cover price. Remember these are "rare" comics...lol.

Doesn't make me want to jump on the modern variant cover bandwagon. I'd like to know what the actual print runs are on variants. It would be better for collectors and the industry. This shows that all the speculation in threads about this book or that variant only having a print run of whatever is just speculation. Nobody but the printer and the publisher knows how many of these are produced, sent out, and then offered again years later.

How long until these books end up in dollar boxes???? Man, it is the 1990's all over again.
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Collector infinityG private msg quote post Address this user
indeed the gimmick 90s are back. the only thing they haven't brought back is newsprint. and I'd like to see that more than variant and lenticular, holographic covers. like seriously... why does "comic book X" #2-5 need 2-3 covers each?
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COLLECTOR Towmater private msg quote post Address this user
Hope that you don't have one slabbed and up on eBay at yesterday's prices...lol.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Bad news for speculative sellers, good news for poor kids who now can snag things they could not afford before.
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Collector KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
My problem with variants is that if the under lying actual book is not a key in any way shape or form then why would I want any version of that book? I have series that I follow because I love the story lines (quite like Paper Girls at the moment) and books I buy because they fill holes in my collection or because they are a key issue, outside of that you can put a pig in a dress and send it to the dance but I won't be asking for a turn.
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COLLECTOR drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
There is no putting the ketchup back in the packet.

Variants are not going away any time soon.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
@KatKomics Some people actually, you know, collect artwork they enjoy. Is that really a crazy concept?
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Collector KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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@KatKomics Some people actually, you know, collect artwork they enjoy. Is that really a crazy concept?


No..no...not crazy at all...for some of the artists I like I try to get commissions or convention sketches. For me comics are first about the stories with artwork a strong second. I don't feel that great artwork can save a bad book and I try to not fall for the marketing gimmicks (not always successful). Some people spend hundreds on a variant when for the same or a little bit more you can get your fav character done by that same artist just for you!
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COLLECTOR JLS_Comics private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by infinityG
indeed the gimmick 90s are back. the only thing they haven't brought back is newsprint. and I'd like to see that more than variant and lenticular, holographic covers. like seriously... why does "comic book X" #2-5 need 2-3 covers each?


Did you ever see this?
https://www.newsarama.com/32580-one-publisher-returning-to-newsprint-for-comic-book-printing.html
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Collector infinityG private msg quote post Address this user
@JLS_Comics

Yea i saw this a while back on another thread. i think its great and would love to see the big 3 do it too. who can deny they hate that old comic book newsprint smell??

but it will never happen...
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
Its nice to see that the ONE expensive variant I own did not make this list


To be fair, we really don't know how many DC is selling off. It could be 10.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
All of those "variants" were going for less than $2.50 during the Hastings Bankruptcy last summer too. I never paid over $3 for most of those myself.

To me, none of those effect any of us here specifically. As you've seen in the past few months, we on this board have focused on the important stuff, like Rick and Morty, Newsstand Editions, Venom #1 McFarlane Sketch Cover, The Spawn Thank you Edition, and speculation over Batman's proposal to Catwoman, and Marvel's nonsensical storytelling.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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For some reason, I feel like I should get royalty payments on R&M memes now
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
@kaptainmyke you're welcome to send a Mr. Meeseeks to collect. Should be interesting.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
I think all negative energy about the shadowy print numbers of R.I.s is overshadowing that there arr good store exclusive variants out there that have finite and public print run numbers. They also tend to have much better artwork on average.
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COLLECTOR Towmater private msg quote post Address this user
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All of those "variants" were going for less than $2.50 during the Hastings Bankruptcy last summer too. I never paid over $3 for most of those myself.

To me, none of those effect any of us here specifically. As you've seen in the past few months, we on this board have focused on the important stuff, like Rick and Morty, Newsstand Editions, Venom #1 McFarlane Sketch Cover, The Spawn Thank you Edition, and speculation over Batman's proposal to Catwoman, and Marvel's nonsensical storytelling.


If you go out and do a search or speak to your LCS this isn't the first time DC has done this. It is the first time it got more press. I hope when this happens in the future Bleeding Cool write about it.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
It's sad really. I buy variants of only covers I like or something that seems unobtainable, like the Venom McFarlane or the Spawn THX

but that Justin Roiland Rick and Morty variant tho
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COLLECTOR drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
While variants are the low hanging fruit and make an easy target our hobby is rife with hype.

Who else remembers when these books were selling for more than 3X their current price?








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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
Touche.
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Collector dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user
Did SS1 ever sell for much more than $100-$150 in 9.8? It is still retaining that value if I'm not mistaken.
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COLLECTOR drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
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Did SS1 ever sell for much more than $100-$150 in 9.8? It is still retaining that value if I'm not mistaken.


It used to sell for $300 easy.

Now you can find raw 9.8 candidates for $30.
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Collector Grayspeedster private msg quote post Address this user
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I think all negative energy about the shadowy print numbers of R.I.s is overshadowing that there arr good store exclusive variants out there that have finite and public print run numbers. They also tend to have much better artwork on average.


I'd like to use Rick and Morty #1 Cover G(7) Bridge City Comics Variant as prime evidence to back what your saying. The print run appears to be fairly low and the cover art is simply outstanding, it definitely outshines some of the other variants fetching $100's. People miss this one because it's not available on mycomicshop or midtown and the eBay seller is letting them go for $15 +sh.
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COLLECTOR kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
It's not a bad cover imo
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Collector thpike private msg quote post Address this user
I pick up covers if I like the cover artist. Some do some fantastic work and I feel like I can support them for that. That being said most of mine are Image rather than the Big Two so they get released at cover price and not inflated. The covers for Seven to Eternity are just amazing artwork in their own right so I buy only those.
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Collector infinityG private msg quote post Address this user
i dont think the variant cover gimmick is a bad thing, just over-played. I'm an artist so i can appreciate the demand for great artists drawing some of our favorite characters.

I just think having 15+ covers, for example, of the rebirth Batman #1, then #2 has like 5 or however many, is just ridiculous.
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
@infinityG are you counting subsequent printings? Because I only know of two covers for Bats #2. Subsequent printings don't count as variants. imo
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COLLECTOR Towmater private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by infinityG
i dont think the variant cover gimmick is a bad thing, just over-played. I'm an artist so i can appreciate the demand for great artists drawing some of our favorite characters.

I just think having 15+ covers, for example, of the rebirth Batman #1, then #2 has like 5 or however many, is just ridiculous.


The way you explained it I would agree. Now if Jim Lee started putting them out in foil and chromium that would be so much cooler. So retro, so 1990's...



(I saw the foil Batman covers in his social media).
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Collector infinityG private msg quote post Address this user
@DarthLego Just checked, i was totally wrong on #2. Just 2 covers, but heading all the way up to #25, theres 2 of each cover. I guess thats cool...? But I looked at #1 and counted 34 different covers (used CLZ collector to count). Maybe different printings, shop exclusives, etc. but 34??

@Towmater not one of those was a foil or chromium cover lmao!
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
@infinityG Yeah, they did a ton of store exclusives on Bats #1, but they are some great cover art and not repetitive so I'm not complaining. DC this cycle has been keen to save these exclusive variants for #1s and big events. Unlike Marvel which has 50 variants and a new #1 every freaking week. Marvel has lost their minds this year.
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