GPA vs GoCollect, Nostomania2997
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| What I do not offer for sale as of yet are comics from the past 25-30 years having almost nothing past 1991 or so. My understanding as I seek to comprehend the market in all these newer low print run multiple variable cover scenarios one would pretty much need such "service" regarding keeping track of it all. From my perspective all this newer stuff in seek of the 9.8 magic number with cover sigs etc etc is akin to Franklin Mint mentality. A "market" in search of ever newer customers to continue upward pricing spikes. |
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| @shrewbeer, You can get the OPG in pdf format, which is searchable on your mobile device and you can also jump to highlighted titles using the Adobe app. I tend to simply take pictures of the price guide pages I need to carry with me, given that I'm usually hunting for a few books from a few titles when on the go. But I realize that wouldn't work for many people, so the pdf is the way to go lacking anything better. | ||
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| For what it's worth, I've been a happy GoCollect.com paid user for a year or more now, and use it as a useful reference in addition to manual ebay and other research. I primarily went to the site as a way to track my personal slab collection, which is a mix of CBCS and CGC slabs... all in one place. It's not perfect, but I still find it a good source. I haven't tried comicmv, nor have I ever paid for GPA. |
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Really surprised not to hear from any GPA subscribers here, usually the site is referred to in god-like terms when referenced. Was kinda hoping for some insight as to why  Also an edit to my op, its been pointed out to me that Nosto is $29/year not $35 as I suggested |
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All the GPA worshipers are camped outside movie theaters right now.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego ...or preoccupied with second thoughts about dearly departed books arriving in Sarasota to be slabbed under CGC's ugly neon toe-tags.  |
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| Those who might still cling to notions GAP is not riddled with shilled false data are welcome to remain naive much like those who thought real estate ticker prices were spot on a decade ago, The end is neigh, Repent Now, Ye Sinners   |
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| OK, unless I'm missing something here, it looks to me like GPA reports the actual sale price on an Ebay buy it now-best offer accepted transaction, even though ebay itself does not. I am going to use a book I was interested in and followed (but did not purchase) as an example where a best offer price was accepted. Check out the following screen shots. Ebay reports it sold for $350, but does show a best offer price was accepted. GPA reports the book sold for $215. The dates and certification numbers match. So, based on this, it looks to me like GPA does report the actual sale price.     |
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| @Foghorn_Sam Getting it right in this instance is meaningless because GPA only covers CGC sales. The guilt of omission is more than a failure to serve a portion of the community. By ignoring sales of CBCS graded books GPA is providing incomplete, therefor inaccurate, data. | ||
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| Just nosing in... although the eBay site doesn't show the best offer amount accepted, they do report the amount through their API. The problem is that it's not 100% accurate though. For whatever reason, it can be substantially off from the actual buy price (I've even seen it reported far above the buy it now price). That's a large part of the reason we implemented the sale flagging on GoCollect (and because humans make mistakes). All flagging is reviewed in detail and often results in an ignored sale if our staff is unable to stitch the pieces together of the actual sale price. |
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| @CatmanAmerica Incomplete yes, inaccurate no. Comprehensive sales data of all raw, CGC, CBCS and PGX sales would be nice, but you are kind of left on your own to gather that much information. I use the GPA as a guideline and realize it's not the end all of sales data and not all venues report to it. Looks like we need a "Trivago" type site to post sales data. Shark Tank here I come. |
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| @jhm thanks for chiming in! Any plans to add ungraded book price guide anytime soon? | ||
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| @shrewbeer We won't be tracking ungraded sales anytime soon. We did that for a while and it was a mess. However, we are currently reworking a lot "under the hood." As part of those updates, we will eventually get to an "assumed" raw value based upon sales data from graded books. Time horizon is likely a few months out yet. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by jhm Understandably, I can imagine it would be difficult to just blindly trust the grade given by the seller. Some kind of guide would be nice though, just to have it all under one site; great to hear its in progress! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Foghorn_Sam Hi Foghorn, That's correct. GPA pulls the electronic feed which shows the 'actual' price paid, versus what eBay 'reports.' And, as others have mentioned, GPA only reports CGC sales, so it's only representing that portion of the market. You can get this information yourself for any item through www.watchcount.com . It's a very useful site. For example, here's the book used in your example above:  Hope this is helpful to you. |
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| @Ditch_Fahrenheit, this is an incredibly useful resource, thanks for providing background on it. Someone had previously posted a link to the site, but did not describe its capabilities. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by jrs You're welcome. Yeah, whether you're buying or selling, it's one of those 'must have' applications for anyone trying to price a book. And it has grown in importance over the years as Best Offer BINs have become more numerous on eBay. |
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@Ditch_Fahrenheit, thanks for the info. Actually I'm finding this thread to be very helpful. I was for the most part unaware of gocollect and watchcount until now. Thanks everyone for sharing and offering their viewpoints on these sites. |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| Interesting timing on this thread. GPA just hit my card for my annual $119 renewal. |
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| messing about on watchcount... I just tried to look up my offer wins; everything >90 days doesnt show up. Ive only had one best offer win in the last 90, and it showed up incorrectly. I tried a few different searches on watchcount to see if I was doing something wrong, but all same result. Watchcount($129):   Screenshot from my ebay account ($100):  |
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| @shrewbeer, it showed one of my winning best offers correctly but I didn't have time to test it out further. | ||
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| Seems @jhm is correct in that the reporting and/or feed is spotty in it's accuracy | ||
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Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @shrewbeer eBay is showing your listing as a regular BIN rather than a 'Best Offer Accepted.' How did you handle the offer and acceptance? Was it done through the standard 'Best Offer' software? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Ditch_Fahrenheit You may be onto something there. Now that you mention it, I *think this one was not a standard B/O. If its the instance I'm thinking of, I sent him a question offer, and he somehow used the seller software to send me a formal offer. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Yeah, that's what I thought was going on. eBay software has a few reporting hiccups depending on how it's used unfortunately. |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| My Paypal account was charged for my annual GPA renewal from a Non-Us-verified account. As a result, my credit card company added a $3.57 foreign transaction fee. Has anyone had a similar experience with GPA? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Ditch_Fahrenheit I just made a purchase yesterday that is also showing up incorrectly (which I assumed it would, after reading this thread). What happened was, I picked a dozen or so lots that I wanted, good prices, condition, etc. It totaled ~$1300. There wasn't a "Make an Offer" available, so I just sent an email, asked if he'd take $1000 for all of them ... about 20 comics total. He asked his boss, boss said sure, so he said: go ahead and buy the comics, and I'll refund you the difference after. So I reckon there's no way anyone would know I paid 25% less for those books, or even which ones (and how much) to apply the discount to, if they did. |
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