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| Ebay reps are usually dont know their way around the site, they are more often than not worthless. Screenshots of your ebay sales account showing him the sale price, forward the sold emails from ebay, and if all else fails give him your username/pwd and change the pwd once he sees the sale. Seems simple enough? |
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| eBay used to show the best offer price (years ago), but changed its practice. It's a major issue for those trying to discern actual sales prices for buy-it-now auctions. | ||
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| I dumped GPA for GoCollect a few months ago. It's basically Ebay data which goes back. It's cheaper then GPA and gets me some data which I can turn in my head to make an informed decision on what I want to bid on something. Having CBCS data is a plus and I have no use for the raw book data. I'm kind of old school on raws I will take Overstreet and pay a percentage of that depending on the title, condition , and how collectible the book is. | ||
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| The story I related above concerns Buy In Now Or Best Offer - has nothing to do with eBay Auctions which is a whole different level of sales records reporting ie being absolutely UpFront no Problems. This is above how Buy It Now or Make AN Offer is catalogued and stored. When one has an anchor store eBay has a specialized "pod" outside of Provo Utah. They are much more attuned to the site than your "normal" reps which normally i would agree don't know beyond rudimentary levels which can be most frustrating to the point of wanting to escape eBay crazy The sales pod reps there told me what I related above is S.O.P. for how such Best Offer Or Buy It Now sales are presented to every one. The $500 iPhone example above was from the eBay Rep as to WHY they do it the way I related. He - actually "they" as I made more than one phone call to them - all said what I related above is indeed their official policy which I learned about ONLY because the Kirby piece is (well, was) the ONLY consignment piece in my eBay store My friend who still owns the Kirby art is an old timer computer hacker UC-Berkeley from the 70s from long before there was an Internet for the rest of us. He also knows his stuff. He actually used to work for me in the 70s 80s in my Berkeley comic book stores He analyzed from several directions and it kept saying to him $2399.99 SOLD price - not the $1700 price it sold for via Buy It Now Or Best Offer. Maybe you guys got a bit confused with me not explaining this difference originally in enough detail? AUCTION sales are straight forward and easy as pie to catalog which is never in this equation - just for the record so any of those firms mentioned which are trying to offer data are SPot On re collecting recording such data |
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Quote:Originally Posted by jrs Thanks for understanding what I have been trying to convey. Evidently you also have hit this mostly unknown eBay brick wall |
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Quote:Originally Posted by slym2none |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer This was almost a year ago, the water flowed past under that bridge many moons ago now. At the time most frustrating and caused a bit of heart ache on a few levels. |
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| I used to use gpa and gocollect but lately has primary used gpa as I find their prices more up up to date. I then use a discount factor to gpa when buying cbcs slabs, I love that cbcs slabs are still in general cheaper. Keep it that way | ||
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@BLBcomics no, we followed your story perfectly.  When you look at an item that was sold via best offer, even though the original asking price is displayed, it does display the words "best offer accepted." Now if one has a logical mind to deduce, one should deduce that obviously the buyer didn't submit a best offer that was identical to the original asking price. Am I Right?  Your friend was a computer savy hacker, but he couldn't do a literal 30 second Google search to verify the facts? Such a search would have turned up proof of what eBay does pretty quickly. It's a real shame. |
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| I swear, I am not spamming this thread. I am posting a quality site that helps to find exactly what you all are asking for, and it seems to be ignored. Try this: http://www.watchcount.com Or not. I can only say I tried to help. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by jrs I should correct this and say actual sales prices for best offer listings....A true buy-it-now auction is just that. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by slym2none Haven't you said elsewhere you have no use for this place? I'm pretty sure by you being "ignored" it's fairly obvious what use this place has for you. |
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I don't need you telling me what & where I can & can't post.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by slym2none I'm not telling you to do anything, it's just that no one cares. I'm sorry I gave you this much attention to be honest. |
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| Me too. So, you can go away now. |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| @BLBcomics You and your friend clearly were not on the same page. Your agreement (or lack of one) with him to sell the book was the problem. The buyer made a legitimate offer and was ready, willing, and able to pay for the book at the accepted price. Ebay earned its commission by putting you in touch with the buyer. Both of these innocent parties lose out and you are mad at Ebay? First off, an offer accepted through any venue (Ebay, Comic Connect, etc.) is no one's business except for the buyer and the seller. Discretion is part of the service provided by Ebay. If I accepted a best offer on a book and Ebay disclosed the amount of the offer I would be looking for another place to sell my books. If I am asking $500 for a book and everyone knows that I accepted an offer of $400 for the book good luck to me if I want to sell another copy for $500 later. Ebay did the right thing and leaking the offer price is bad business. As to your problem I am amazed that you were unable to convey the price to your seller. Every time I sell a book I get an e-mail from Ebay "Congratulations, your item sold and it’s been paid for. ". The e-mail includes the price the book sold for. You also should get an e-mail from Paypal when the buyer pays. While the e-mails do contain the buyer information there is nothing stopping you from printing out the e-mail, cutting out and / or blacking over the buyer info, scanning the altered e-mail, and sending it to your seller. Nothing too complicated here. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Yup, nothing complicated at all. One would clearly think so. I get all the same stuff every sale like you write. Trip is, like I was saying, the SALES listing page on eBay said SOLD FOR 2399.99 This is what the loggerhead was and remains I made more than one call to eBay Anchor Store "pod" just outside Provo Utah - one has to be invited to be in that special site The listing said it sold for 2399.99 This is and was the only listing I had on consignment from some one else as I have 50,000 items in my warehouse of which I have gotten a bit over 7100 listed currently. I have plenty of stuff to keep me occupied as I do not seek out consignment The eBay sales reps in this special biz pod told me their normal gig as laid out in the eBay business model is to mark em SOLD at the original listed price The consignment guy decided to believe his eyeballs telling him 2399.99 SOLD price, did his mental math and said he wanted $1800 questioning my honesty in the proposed sale. Since I was "gross" profiting just a couple hundred, the hassle factor to "prove" simply became not worth the net result. This BS phenom of how eBay shows such sales only applies to Buy In Now Or Best Offer Not to auctions where the sold price is clearly listed All I am saying is those eBay sales of BIN or BO skews those collecting data. Maybe not a whole lot but the clear potential is there. Now, once a buyer leaves a seller feedback, then eBay notes there was a "best offer" accepted on the SOLD item listing page. This was a year or so ago. Am noting a phenom of sorts I had not been previously tuned in on as everything else I list is mine per se. Because of that the consignor became sort of stuck on stupid with what data there was to "see" regardless of what ever else was being said and showed. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by slym2none Not a price guide but a decent site for pulling best offer data or farming any ebay data really. Thanks for posting. As far as I know, only gocollect has this capability out of the four. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer I think he was sore because no one acknowledged him  |
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shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Logan510 Damn, you quoted me as I was editing my post. I like it better the way it is. No potential drama. I understand the feud and why, but let it go or use PM please. Let's talk comics  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer No feud, no drama. It's not like I'm running off to another message board to besmirch the good people here or anything I agree, lets talk comics. |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| @BLBcomics Your consignee was about 99% of the problem Ebay 1%. If Superman circled the Earth really fast to go back in time and made Ebay change everything the way you asked there is a good chance your consignee would have found another problem with your deal. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JWKyle Diggin on this idea, seems sensible. I dont want to carry around an OPG though. I wish it was in searchable app form. Hell, any of them in app form would be nice. Seems more often than not when going through books at a con, lcs, flea, etc Ive got bad service on my phone browser and it really slows me down. #Firstworldproblems |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Maybe so, Consignee was a stickly pear branch from git-go as he really was not a motivated seller mentality who by the time it was in actual sell mode had found another computer job. When it went up for sale he had been recently laid off, etc etc my buyer friend was 100% hassle free, has since bought other pieces from me - eBay Biz Reps - not the 'normal' Customer Service Reps - on other hand were upfront with what I describe regarding Buy it Now (Or Best Offer) that the Original Listing Price - Not a Lower Accepted Offer - is what a Sold Listing will show Ergo, I thought not to pursue the scenario further at the time. I brought it up here only insofar as as to attempt to demonstrate a data collecting 3rd party would be collecting skewed data Me, for some decades now I am used to Overstreet look ups as a starting point until one gets to 9.0 VFNM or better depending on what it is - then do further research as mood or inclination arises. I view a lot of the 3rd party price data collection info on "hot" comics akin to the Real Estate Psycho-Babblers of the last decade before the "big crash" circa 2007-08 when millions of lost souls got caught up in Supposed Experts pounding pushing their agendas whilst certain markets were already in crash mode. Fifty years of non-stop "full time" comics dealing seeing Ups and Down turns supposedly produces a modicum of Wisdom - I hope so anyway. |
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| What I do not offer for sale as of yet are comics from the past 25-30 years having almost nothing past 1991 or so. My understanding as I seek to comprehend the market in all these newer low print run multiple variable cover scenarios one would pretty much need such "service" regarding keeping track of it all. From my perspective all this newer stuff in seek of the 9.8 magic number with cover sigs etc etc is akin to Franklin Mint mentality. A "market" in search of ever newer customers to continue upward pricing spikes. |
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| @shrewbeer, You can get the OPG in pdf format, which is searchable on your mobile device and you can also jump to highlighted titles using the Adobe app. I tend to simply take pictures of the price guide pages I need to carry with me, given that I'm usually hunting for a few books from a few titles when on the go. But I realize that wouldn't work for many people, so the pdf is the way to go lacking anything better. | ||
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| For what it's worth, I've been a happy GoCollect.com paid user for a year or more now, and use it as a useful reference in addition to manual ebay and other research. I primarily went to the site as a way to track my personal slab collection, which is a mix of CBCS and CGC slabs... all in one place. It's not perfect, but I still find it a good source. I haven't tried comicmv, nor have I ever paid for GPA. |
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Really surprised not to hear from any GPA subscribers here, usually the site is referred to in god-like terms when referenced. Was kinda hoping for some insight as to why  Also an edit to my op, its been pointed out to me that Nosto is $29/year not $35 as I suggested |
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All the GPA worshipers are camped outside movie theaters right now.  |
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