Best temperature &Humidity to store a comic2975
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| Hey I bought a huge safe to store my graded books it's fire proof and flood proof . I put 2 safe dehumidifiers in it and a sensor that tells me the temperature and humidity in the safe my temperature is consistently around 68 and my humidity is consistent around 39.9 percent does anyone know the ideal peramitors to store your graded books ? | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @JCage As a heating and cooling instructor, those setting seam ideal. | ||
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JCage private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Oh wow awesome I read a bunch of different articles that's why I am asking each one said something different. Some said not to have it under 40 percent because it drys the comic out some said I was good . | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Temps below 70 and humidity between 40-50. Pretty much comics like the same conditions that the human body likes. | ||
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JCage private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Ok cool thanks | ||
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shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @JCage the trick is consistency. Dont let the temp/humidity fluctuate much | ||
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer+1. Good point. |
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JCage private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Ok cool | ||
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CFP_Comics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| IIRC there was a thread over at the CGC forum about the dangers of storing slabs in fire proof safes. This was many years ago, and the end result was this type of storage resulted in rusty staples. I have no idea about the other controls in place but I do remember the issue with that type of safe. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeerTimes a billion. The numbers can fluctuate a bit as long as they are consistent. |
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JCage private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yes I've seen the threads that's why I added a dehumidifier to the safe and the sensor to keep an eye on the humidity and temperature | ||
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JCage private msg quote post Address this user | |
| And that's also why I asked the question on what are the best areas to have your numbers at | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The deal with the fireproof safes, CGC actually claimed that the fireproof linings of the safes were causing the rusting via chemical reaction. How much truth is in that who knows? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego The truth is that some fireproof safe designs are good and some aren't. It depends entirely on the materials used in building the safe. I'm not sure whether CGC has claimed anything, but if they're making that representation in respect to every fireproof safe, they're providing inaccurate information. Some folks on their boards have provided evidence of bad experiences and there are safes to be avoided (those containing liquids or chemicals that off-gas to a moist state). Older design Sentry safes were notorious for that. Inexpensive safes of questionable design should be avoided. There's no doubt that there are horror stories, but the evidence is sketchy. The best paper protection in a well designed fire-resistant safe is UL125, rated to keep interior temp. below 125 degrees for a specified period of time in the event of a fire. If seriously considering a fire-resistant safe I'd suggest checking out Phoenix safes. clickable text Disclaimer: I have no business connection with this company. |
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| I have a Mesa safe can't find out what they used to fire rated this safe thing is killing me.maybe you can help I'll post the safe I bought maybe you will know it has UL125 or not? | ||
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| I would recommend that anyone who uses any kind of safe get a digital humidity gage and keep it inside the safe. And get a dehumidifier device if necessary. | ||
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JCage private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I have both | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by JCage If the Mesa safe doesn't provide a UL rating it either hasn't been tested or isn't designed for fire protection. The model in the picture doesn't appear to have an inner-safe so I doubt it meets the UL125 rating. Your safe might qualify for a UL350 rating, but if internal temperatures approach 350 degrees Fahrenheit for an extended period, you're getting into Ray Bradbury territory! If that happens brown, brittle pages start looking like a real possibility. After checking out the listed features in ad copy on the Walmart site, the safe's fire rating appears dubious. I read something about "tested up to 1830 degrees for two hours", but that "up to" number is meaningless without any verifiable numbers for the internal temperature maintained. Quote: Originally Posted by DarthLego This is a good suggestion. Anyone considering securing their valued comics in a safe should have an internal gauge for humidity and thermometer. Desicants can help provide a consistently balanced humidity level. |
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| @CatmanAmerica I like your Ray Bradbury reference. For those that do not know this, book paper will catch on fire and burn at 451 degrees Fahrenheit. | ||
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| So basically your saying the safe I have is shit ? Even though I have the temp stick sensor in it that tells me the readings of temperature and humidity every hour and everything is staying at 68 degrees and 40 percent humidity? | ||
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JCage private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Because if that's the case I'll sell it and get a better one | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by JCage As a gun safe, the Mesa is probably fine. It's main attribute is good theft security. You're on top of temperature and humidity control which is very important. Fire resistance is another consideration altogether. For that, a data grade safe is the best option, but good ones are pricy. |
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| Ok thank you. Do you think as long as my temperature and humidity are steady and at good levels the books will be ok ? | ||
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| @JCage your safe is not shit. If your home burned to the ground and the fire department never shows up, yes, your books are done even if you dropped 20K on a data safe. If the safe is in the basement in your kitchen burns for six hours your books are fine. If a fire starts in the room that you're safe is in and the fire department gets the fire out within an hour, you're probably borderline. Fire is always a gamble when it comes to safes, even if you are willing to drop serious amounts of cash on one (UL Data safe comparable to the size you have is about 14K). If you really want fireproof, use a safety deposit box. Otherwise, you're safe is just fine  I worry a little about offgassing, so I just make sure my safe gets an air change at least three times per week (leave the door open for a bit, or if I'm in a rush I'll throw a fan in front of the open door for a minute and close it) What do you have for humidity control? I've been thinking about upgrading mine, I use an older manual color-coded one |
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| I use 2 in my safe and it keeps it steady around 42 percent I bought the double pack from Amazon for a good price | ||
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| And this is what I use to monitor my temperature and humidity | ||
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