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| Its just about impossible to differentiate between a collector wanting a yellow sig and someone looking to sell it. Good policy would be free for minors, charge the adults. I cant imagine *most artists are extremely well off, and they deserve a piece from anyone making loot off their signature. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Logan510 Begs the question, does CBCS allow books to be dropped off and signed without a witness actually seeing them signed? Oh, and if I was Starlin, since I wasn't going to work with CGC any longer I'd have taken a big stack someone dropped off and had someone else sign them. Then return them. 10 days later I'd let people know what happened to throw a wrench in the entire yellow label program. |
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| Ummmm, the slab crowd all gah-gah over this new fad scam of "witness" to sigs being entombed in plastic coffins is far far far from "half" the "fan" base. More like maybe 10%. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Thanks! |
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| @BLBcomics the percentage don't matter. It's the principle. If customer A wants to plastic entomb their property which they paid for so be it. They should not be treated differently from any other customer. It would be like Starbucks asking me what I intend to do with my coffee. Drink it? No, I'm going to go use it in a modern art project. Oh really? That'll be an extra $20! It's no one's friggin business what I do with what I buy after I buy it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego What you write is partially true. Since you seem to be stuck on your freedom to do this or that after the item is signed, and slabbed maybe you should look at it from the creator's point-of-view. He/she should have the same freedom to signed, not sign, charge one person one amount, not charge another, or charge someone else a different amount before giving it back. It is their signature. |
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| I think McDonald's should charge me double for their double cheeseburger. .. if the cashier witnesses my purchase. If not I should get it for free | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 This makes me think of this for some reason  |
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| I never said an artist doesn't the right to charge whatever they want, of course they do. I'm saying that choosing to split a percentage of your fan base into second class citizens who must pay more than other fans simply because they are choosing to do a particular thing with their book is bad business behavior. Fans should not support bad business behavior. It's basically the artist saying if you slab you must be a flipper looking to make a buck off me, and that simply isn't true. | ||
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| @JLS_Comics that is blatant discrimination!!! How dare they give me something free for forgetting the receipt while charging others in which they remember to provide the receipt! Boycott McDonald's ... and the creator of the quarter pounder! They can't charge someone and others not charge! Blasphemy | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego This basically comes from the creators not understanding why most of us fans are getting books signed and graded. And what services the grading companies provide and what the customers are getting for their money. I like and respect Jim Starlin. I believe that he and all other creators have every right to charge what they deem is fair, charge more for witnessed signatures if they want to, can work with what grading companies they want to, or to not work with them at all. However, in reading some of his posts on the incident, he makes some statements that are either wrong or at least grossly overstated. He is being given some misinformation. Hopefully the grading companies are making efforts to meet him and other creators, outside of the conventions, to clear up that misinformation. |
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 I swore no more comics, then this happened.
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| I don't even bother with this anymore. Got Steranko's a year or so ago, and even though he is a great guy and gives you about 10 minutes of his time to talk to you, he does charge. And CBCS charged to witness. And of course to encapsulate. And admission to the con itself. Even though I got a nice book, it definitely would not be considered an investment. I have more invested in it than it's worth. Best part of it was talking to the guy. He will do that for free. I was just at Tidewater con and walked by Neal Adams booth. We made eye contact for a second. He charged me $3. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BLBcomics Very true. Most of these outrageous prices are from a small handful of collectors. Ironically, the other 90% of us are trying to compete for their cash. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by PaulPop  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BLBcomics Entombed? It's not as if we were talking about Jimmy Hoffa. Last I checked, any graded book could be cracked out of its plastic shell. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego I disagree. There's a reason you're charged more for a red Ferrari Vs a white Ferrari. Ultimately it's because the resale value of a red one is significantly higher than a white one. It doesn't cost more to paint a car red, but it does add to the overall value in the market. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Fans = fanatics. We put up with horrible business behavior all the time from the entire comic industry, and the collecting side of it.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego It's basically the artist saying if you slab you COULD be a flipper looking to make a buck off me, and that simply IS true. Fixed it for ya  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer hehehe Nice! "Everything has a price, but are you willing to pay that price for what you want?" |
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| red paint is expensive | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard Did you witness the red paint job? I've heard that's even more expensive  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Now it's discrimination? Good gravy. Some of you guys are just unbeievable. "half" the fanbase? Try again. |
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| @Logan510 The feeling is mutual. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego So you're free to whine about this discrimination and Starlin is free to charge whatever he wants. Can we at least agree on that? |
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| He can charge whatever he wants. He fans can like or dislike what he charges. He fans can agree or disagree about his opinion on slabbing. Everyone can do and think and feel whatever they want. Kumbaya. |
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Works for me  |
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| Why don't artists offer to slab comics themselves? Problem solved. Jim Starlin Grading Company JSGC | ||
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| @KingNampa there are some who have started to do so. | ||
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