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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Exactly. I took the removed pictorial joke as a SNL (as in Sat Night Live) type fun joke as all this Witness Protection Verification stuff is just a bit too serious which is why so many are pausing for station identification WHY they collect. To each his own. Freedom. Perception becomes Reality even if not built on a solid foundation. I watched Jim Starlin draw this in our family comics memory book Christmas Day 1974 in my house then in Alameda Calif. Do I "need" a witness to verify authenticate the Sig much less the drawing and coloring job?  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Not yet but if this cease and desist is violated then perhaps he will have cause  |
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| So somebody completely unrelated to Starlin or CGC not only bought Starlin's domain name, but then made it mirror CGC? Now that person is risking litigation for sure. | ||
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| I found it interesting that the person didn't do the privacy protection when buying the domain. Not sure how it would be lawsuit worthy though. |
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| Nowadays people are sued just because. Frivolous lawsuits happen all the time. CGC's lawyers will think up something. | ||
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| it's not illegal to forward a parked domain. i could to it right now myself. it is a funny lol redirect though if i do say so myself | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by jimmylinguini It is a total DUH...someone making Starlin seem stupid. Have fun fighting this one at an accelerated pace.  |
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| If someone else bought the domain, it could and likely would be viewed as cybersquatting. Starlin's recourse would be to acquire the domain name. But for laughs check out the John Malcovich commercial (I think it was for GoDaddy), where he's trying to purchase a domain name that a guy with his name has already purchased. It could always be that!  |
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| I love that commercial. | ||
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The thread really got quiet. Makes you wonder if this was awarded to boardies  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BLBcomics Thats an awesome piece you have there. Perfect christmastime decoration on the wall  You dont need it, not at all, you are correct. But after you are gone, your kids or grandkids might appreciate it being authenticated; it could very well help them out of a financial jam should they wish to sell it. AW and VSP have a good purpose, wether it be resale immediately, retirement resale, or estate. There are some books that I will never sell, and thus grading/slab is completely pointless; but if I die I want my kids as well off as possible, and these programs help to ensure they get the maximum amount possible for my stuff. Starlin obviously doesnt understand this, calling us "suckers for this crazy scam". He's old school, I get it. But he still shouldnt shit on everyone for doing something that he doesnt understand. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer I don't think that he doesn't understand. Starlin seems like a smart guy. He just has a different opinion of autographs, and witness programs. |
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| I could very well be wrong, but from what he has written so far it sounds like he has never even heard of CGC or CBCS prior to this incident | ||
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I only summer in the winter.  |
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| @Towmater @shrewbeer I think Starlin has heard of CGC (and grading companies in general), but doesn't have a clear understanding of their services. I do agree that he and other creators have a different opinion of autographs and witness programs. But then again, so does a part of the comic collecting community. I know several fellow collectors that are hard core against slabbing comics. I just hope that CBCS is in some way being proactive and trying to educate creators who will be signing books at cons that CBCS will be present. |
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| Having a conversation, Towmater, spending time invested, then not knowing if posts will be deleted, why waste such time? I did not see any reason for slamming the window shut. Not even sure what got deleted of who's postings. Don't really care. There are almost no souls here on this "board" conversing any hoot. Yet, there would be if there was a better delivery and tracking system. Just making a suggestion on that note as many others already voiced in the past. that said, from his words JIm Starlin wrote and posted on his face book page of which the two main postings have garnered over 3000 "likes" to date in just a few days might make those in positions of Power might contemplate pausing for Station Identification Just a thought. Those of you inside slab profit center microcosm sub-micro-universe must realize MOST serious comics collectors have gotten fed up with being viewed upon and being treated many a time like Rubes wandering in a Carny routine(s) being bandied about as this is the only way to go regarding Witness Protection Fears being blown all out proportion. Some sound like those saying "it's for the children" when they pontificate about all those unwashed masses who some how can not make it to a show in the USA. Me, and I speak only for myself here on this note, I ONLY try to acquire Sigs and drawings from pros & such that are personalized. I have yet to pay bucks for anything in this comics memory book begun back in 1974 which has seen its 250 pages filled up, nooks & crannies being explored. Those who want bucks to make a sketch, my main interest is to document the "memory" I met him and/or her. Most of these comics creators can tell when true interest in their work is expressed. Not what is said to em, but HOW it is said. No one has ever said "no" yet to date. I feel honored to have been fortunate to have become friends with many many hundreds of them since I began the shows in 1967. Guys like Mike Mignola, Art Adams, Darrick Robertson, so many more, grew up in my Bay Area comics stores as kids being driven there by some very patient moms and dads. Lessons from AmWay and/or Franklin Mint should be noted by any one bothering to read this far in to this missive. Manipulated commodity investments always find the Newton Laws of gravity as the apples fall off the tree over time. But that is simply my opine based on studying history pushing on six decades now. I "see" arrogance - perhaps unintended - from those who stipulate obviously Jim Starlin needs to be educated in the plastic slab game. Huh? ANY ONE wandering in to a comics show is having same shoved in their face from multiple dealers for years now Stop selling FEAR - change the business model PR propaganda model. There is a LOT of alienation going on mayhaps some of those in this insular microcosm are not aware of. Business models mayhaps must needs to be re-explored. Just a thought. SIDEBAR: If when I am blessed again with a killer collection of high grade Gold & Silver as in days or yore, but of course books like an Action 1, Tec 27. AF 15. FF 1,etc I would have slabbed up as that makes business sense. And I wish to reiterate once again I LOVE the concept CBCS came on to the set bringing back ethics in to this aspect of the comics investment slice to kill the monopoly ponzi scheme tactics of CGC's owner. I know that man hired a cyber hit squad on me. And I am still standing. I have gathered enough data to make a trek to the FBI I have eBay investigators who scope out what they call "Intent to Disrupt" attacks in my camp stretching back to Aug 2012 whilst I was "distracted" with a daughter undergoing counting now 5 skull opening brain moving surgeries. And a lot more. Others who have had books get damaged in-house, others who have had comics get "lost" - all with zero compensation. Jean Bails told me after she called the owner of CGC and called me back that in her words she said to me, "He told me to basicly go f*** myself ..." The man was rude. And all that BS some how was being twisted in to being my "fault" by Cyber Liar Trolls. There is no "bitterness" as some have stated previously There is undiluted unabashed anger. I WANT to talk to a judge and jury. I will never let this go with this CGC owner. I asked my long time friend Steve Geppi what he thought his good name is worth. Guess what he replied? Katy is healing finally as best as she is going to. I am a firm believer The Truth wins out in the end. Are we there yet? In closing, mayhaps Steve Borock might find a sliver of some time for me. It's all just a box of rain.    |
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Quote:Originally Posted by BLBcomics From my understanding, they weren't your post. Maybe I'm wrong. From your response, you seemed to have missed the fact that I'm behind what Mr. Starlin did and is doing. |
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| Bob, can you explain what exactly CGC did to you? You talk about a book being damaged and have explained that thoroughly but you seem to be hinting at other stuff and keep saying "cgc owner" - can you please elaborate on what you're talking about? Thanks |
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| That falls under Don't ask. Don't tell. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Hey now, that was banned; its perfectly acceptable to come out of the closet nowadays! Im interested as well, many posts have vaguely hinted at massive wrongdoing involving all the heavy hitters with plenty of evidence |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by BLBcomics You would be thankful to have a witness when a buyer files a not as described claim on ebay calling your item a fake. If the item had a third party witness you might not even have tot take a return just because the buyer decided to change their mind. Sure, you would never sell it but all of us pass away eventually and our beloved collectibles become someone else's clutter after we are gone leaving your loved ones with the problem I described above. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| $2.99 comic + unwitnessed starlin autograph = approx $5 $2.99 comic + witnessed starlin autograph to starlin + witness fee + slab fee + shipping fee = starlin saying wake up people... Ive done hundreds of shows and ain't nobody forging me. One may agree with him or one may not, but the point certainly has merit That's all that's going on... and if you don't see his point, you're not paying attention |
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| If you don't see that the ASP program CBCS offers not only has merit, but is providing a great service to customers who actually want and value that service...then you are not only not paying attention, you're being disingenuous. The tone that this thread is taking toward anti yellow label slabbing is being disrespectful to our hosts here, as it is a key part of their business model. And CBCS has done nothing to garner such animosity. If you want to bash CGC, then direct it at CGC, but don't call something that is a part of CBCS's business a scam. |
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| Some of the slabbing game is a racket. Straight up. I like CBCS but both them and CGC have stuff that makes me scratch my head. | ||
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| One way I can see the issue of ASP/VSP evolving is if the grading companies gave a kickback to the artists for each book with their signature like a royalty of sorts. I think if even a small amount of the ASP(maybe even VSP) fees went to the artists directly they may be more interested in this service. Just an idea. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Duper. Puttin on the Ritz. |
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