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Scottie Young is another that I abhor. I find the artistic immaturity of the style offensive and disengaging.


Amen brutha, he's another one who should never be drawing mainstream characters. At least he had the decency to stick with his own Indy title and "Lil X-Men" variant covers.
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John Romita, Jr.

My opinion solidified after this recent JRJR Tribute by DC. I didn't find his art very good.
The only good cover I liked was the Harley Quinn #27 cover he did.

I think he's overrated. What do you think?

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His recent work is unappealing. Just don't like his current style. However, go back to late 70s/early 80s Iron with Romita Jr and Layton and it's awesome. I liked Jr jr's work on Daredevil. A lot of that was inked by Al Williamson.


I also liked his Thor run in the late 90s, I think his style fit the book.
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John Romita, Jr.

My opinion solidified after this recent JRJR Tribute by DC. I didn't find his art very good.
The only good cover I liked was the Harley Quinn #27 cover he did.

I think he's overrated. What do you think?

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His recent work is unappealing. Just don't like his current style. However, go back to late 70s/early 80s Iron with Romita Jr and Layton and it's awesome. I liked Jr jr's work on Daredevil. A lot of that was inked by Al Williamson.


I also liked his Thor run in the late 90s, I think his style fit the book.


His runs on spidey in the 2000's were pretty good (the 9/11 issue) . I also like his run on avengers with Bendis, reminded me of his thor run.
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Bryan Hitch is pretty wretched these days.
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Bryan Hitch is pretty wretched these days.


Wasn't he an Alan Davis clone when he started?
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Bryan Hitch is pretty wretched these days.


His JLA stuff?
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Bryan Hitch is pretty wretched these days.


Wasn't he an Alan Davis clone when he started?


Just like Phil Jiminez, if you're going to copy someone, make it a good artist!
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Bryan Hitch is pretty wretched these days.


His JLA stuff?


Yeah there were nice splash pages that reminded me of the "good" Hitch but overall it's wonky. I can't find a snap of it but I'm remembering a Flash panel with a very awkward leg ... and then there's just an overall MEH about it:


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He lost his sense of black/white balance is what happened.
There are no shadows and no dark clothes in that drawing.
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He lost his sense of black/white balance is what happened.
There are no shadows and no dark clothes in that drawing.


Isn't the light source behind/to the right of them? When I look at Wonder Woman and Batman it seems like their anterior is in shadow and their posterior is in light.
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One of the worst working today is Humberto Ramos. His art is just terrible, what is it, Mexican manga? I can't believe he drew ASM for all those years.




I agree, Ramos interiors are hit and miss but he's done some amazing covers. My personal favourite:


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The only thing amazing about that cover is the title of the book.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
It's better than the Spider-Ham Peter Parker love child he drew earlier.
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Here's the real cover to #1. I thought someone said his style had changed over the past 10 years?


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That was smaller than I thought. Look at Peter's right foot, my god.
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The problem with Ramos and his ilk (like Joe Mad, worst X-Men artist ever) is that all the other wanna-be artists jumped on the psuedo-Manga bandwagon and helped ruin good books. This in turn allowed titles like this became popular. I think this artist could possibly be worse than Ramos.


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That was smaller than I thought. Look at Peter's right foot, my god.

Forum resizes pictures. I think you can click on them and they will go full size.
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Here's the real cover to #1. I thought someone said his style had changed over the past 10 years?




Looks like he studied at the Frank Robbins School of Body Physics.
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He lost his sense of black/white balance is what happened.
There are no shadows and no dark clothes in that drawing.


Isn't the light source behind/to the right of them? When I look at Wonder Woman and Batman it seems like their anterior is in shadow and their posterior is in light.

You have to draw then think-where can I fit in black? Then find as many ways to fit in black as you can. A good balance is 50/50. Every body on the ground should have a shadow. Half the clothing should have black. There's lots of opportunities for black-he missed em all. Now with that balance, the hero figures might get lost in the mass of bodies. But that's the colorist's job-to make em stand out. The whole thing is a missed opportunity IMO.
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The problem with Ramos and his ilk (like Joe Mad, worst X-Men artist ever) is that all the other wanna-be artists jumped on the psuedo-Manga bandwagon and helped ruin good books. This in turn allowed titles like this became popular. I think this artist could possibly be worse than Ramos.




I agree. That art is the primary reason I never tried that book.
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The problem with Ramos and his ilk (like Joe Mad, worst X-Men artist ever) is that all the other wanna-be artists jumped on the psuedo-Manga bandwagon and helped ruin good books. This in turn allowed titles like this became popular. I think this artist could possibly be worse than Ramos.




I agree. That art is the primary reason I never tried that book.


I love Chew and I think the art fits the book fantastically.
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Chew on that, suckas!
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I think this artist could possibly be worse than Ramos.




You're giving him too much credit.

Ramos is the best of the worst!
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I prefer my illustrations like this:



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"Nuff Said:


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The problem with Ramos and his ilk (like Joe Mad, worst X-Men artist ever) is that all the other wanna-be artists jumped on the psuedo-Manga bandwagon and helped ruin good books. This in turn allowed titles like this became popular. I think this artist could possibly be worse than Ramos.




I agree. That art is the primary reason I never tried that book.


I love Chew and I think the art fits the book fantastically.

I don't find this really all that bad as this is the way these characters were introduced and have always been drawn. The artist didn't take a recognized character and turn it into some type of Tim Burton pseudo-nightmare.
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The problem with Ramos and his ilk (like Joe Mad, worst X-Men artist ever) is that all the other wanna-be artists jumped on the psuedo-Manga bandwagon and helped ruin good books. This in turn allowed titles like this became popular. I think this artist could possibly be worse than Ramos.




I agree. That art is the primary reason I never tried that book.


I love Chew and I think the art fits the book fantastically.

I don't find this really all that bad as this is the way these characters were introduced and have always been drawn. The artist didn't take a recognized character and turn it into some type of Tim Burton pseudo-nightmare.


Yup, I agree. Just like I said a few days ago, if Ramos had never drawn DC/Marvel/established characters and stuck to his Indy stuff like Crimson, I wouldn't hate him as much. (Although he did ruin DV8 for me).

And if you get a chance, check out the interior art of Chew, the artist definitely sucks monkey balls.
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The problem with Ramos and his ilk (like Joe Mad, worst X-Men artist ever) is that all the other wanna-be artists jumped on the psuedo-Manga bandwagon and helped ruin good books. This in turn allowed titles like this became popular. I think this artist could possibly be worse than Ramos.




I agree. That art is the primary reason I never tried that book.


I love Chew and I think the art fits the book fantastically.


Must be something wrong with your eyes. We already know there's something wrong with your ears LOL.
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I don't care for Vicente Cifuentes' art. I'm sure he's a nice person, just not my cup of tea. Be glad when he's off Aquaman.
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One of the worst working today is Humberto Ramos. His art is just terrible, what is it, Mexican manga? I can't believe he drew ASM for all those years.







I only own 2 books with his work; one is just on the cover (Age of Apocalypse #4- a gift from my grandson) and the other was an impulse buy while he was signing the 1st book(ASM #694). I actually like both covers, but I looked inside the ASM later after the convention and quickly closed it. I've pretty much ignored his work since, so now I understand your dislike after seeing your posts.

Here's the two I do like. Almost seems like a different artist.



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