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Collector 2.07K	2.07K Jerkfro private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Cap always knew those ballet moves would help combat Nazism.
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Collector 2.07K	2.07K Jerkfro private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by Jesse_O Quote: Originally Posted by Jerkfro It makes my eyes bleed You should probably get that checked out!! I healed it by looking at Brian Bolland's work.
	9 years ago	Post 102 • IP flag post

Collector 2.07K	2.07K Jerkfro private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	I'm gonna go feast on some Adam Hughes, Russ Heath, and John Romita in order to get the foul taste of this thread out of my mouth.
	9 years ago	Post 103 • IP flag post

Collector* 10.54K	10.54K Towmater private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Jesse_O This is why I've never really like talking about how bad or good an artist is. I tried to make light of it in a few posts, but some people have very strong opinions on artwork. I look at it like this - these artists are or were good enough to land jobs doing art. This is how they make their living. Obviously someone, somewhere was impressed enough to hire them. Their work is published!! Have a little respect for them in the fact that they ARE working artists!! I may not like all styles - anime and magna come to mind. But that does not mean that someone else will not enjoy it. This is kind of like discussing musicians. I'm positive we all have strong opinions about that also!! To each their own, live and let live I say. Perfect. Liking one artist or another is subjective. Reminds me of the discussion in the 90's artist. The old farts club of collectors didn't like Liefeld or McFarlane/McSpidey and left the hobby. The younger group of collectors got what they were doing and responded by buying the product. The same can be said for music. Generally, the generation that comes before doesn't get what the next generation likes or desires.
	9 years ago	Post 104 • IP flag post

Moderator 4.27K	4.27K The_Watcher private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson It looks like he's thinking, "If I can just do that move I learned at ballet practice, I'll be free!" You don't know how right you are
	9 years ago	Post 105 • IP flag post

Collector 2.07K	2.07K Jerkfro private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by The_Watcher Quote: Originally Posted by Jerkfro Honestly, look at Robbins on Invaders in the 70s. How could anyone at Marvel consider that to be good work? That shows fluidity of movement. Like a good bowel movement
	9 years ago	Post 106 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton You know Ramos' style has changed a lot since this artwork was published back in 2002 - 2006. His stuff has gotten better since it was published back in 2006? Even if you think his recent stuff is better (it's not), it doesn't make up for the 20+ years before that when he sucked spoon.
	9 years ago	Post 107 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Jesse_O Quote: Originally Posted by The_Watcher Quote: Originally Posted by Jerkfro Honestly, look at Robbins on Invaders in the 70s. How could anyone at Marvel consider that to be good work? Look at the last panel - Caps' expression. I think it is perfect!! As for his body twists and such, he IS Captain America!!! Robbins work on the Invaders was some of my favorite stuff to read when I was a kid. It was full of action and seemed to pop off the pages. I think it still does. Can't you see Cap coming off the pages at you? Maybe it's just me ... Yup, just you.
	9 years ago	Post 108 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	And if anyone thinks I'm not being fair, I'm willing to post a large list of artists I like and you can find one you don't like to rag on.
	9 years ago	Post 109 • IP flag post

Collector 1.34K	1.34K VillageIdiot private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton And if anyone thinks I'm not being fair, I'm willing to post a large list of artists I like and you can find one you don't like to rag on. Nope. You are correct. Ramos and his ilk are horrid "artists". The fact they are employed and getting regular work is nothing more than a result of a leadership gap, and a lack of truly creative minds heading the current corporate structure. A disturbing lack of interest in sticking to a standard and respecting even the most minute skill regarding proper proportion and anatomy. A daft, impulsive, rift from tradition to appease a temporary, or social angst for "diversity" and representation. Its actually comical to watch. Times change? taste changes? fine. The human form does not!
	9 years ago	Post 110 • IP flag post

Collector 60	60 ccmp99 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton You know Ramos' style has changed a lot since this artwork was published back in 2002 - 2006. His stuff has gotten better since it was published back in 2006? Even if you think his recent stuff is better (it's not), it doesn't make up for the 20+ years before that when he sucked spoon. That's just like your opinion man... Also he only started in 1994/95 . So 2006 would be about halfway through his current career. 20 years before 2006 he would be about 14 years old. I get it it's your opinion, but to say he "sucked dick for twenty years" c'mon man. If your not a fan of people with different unique styles that stray from anatomy you probably hate at least 50% of comic books artists, including Kirby and Ditko. John Byrne was also heavily influenced by Manga, so you probably hate him too. You probably hate ice cream and puppies too.
	9 years ago	Post 111 • IP flag post

Collector 60	60 ccmp99 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by VillageIdiot Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton And if anyone thinks I'm not being fair, I'm willing to post a large list of artists I like and you can find one you don't like to rag on. Nope. You are correct. Ramos and his ilk are horrid "artists". The fact they are employed and getting regular work is nothing more than a result of a leadership gap, and a lack of truly creative minds heading the current corporate structure. A disturbing lack of interest in sticking to a standard and respecting even the most minute skill regarding proper proportion and anatomy. A daft, impulsive, rift from tradition to appease a temporary, or social angst for "diversity" and representation. Its actually comical to watch. Times change? taste changes? fine. The human form does not! Not all comic artists are John Buscema. Let's see a list of your favorite artists that stay true to the human form. For God sake's in How to Draw comics the Marvel way they tell you that normal proportions are not interesting. Blah!
	9 years ago	Post 112 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton You know Ramos' style has changed a lot since this artwork was published back in 2002 - 2006. His stuff has gotten better since it was published back in 2006? Even if you think his recent stuff is better (it's not), it doesn't make up for the 20+ years before that when he sucked spoon. That's just like your opinion man... Also he only started in 1994/95 . So 2006 would be about halfway through his current career. 20 years before 2006 he would be about 14 years old. You're right, I meant to say that he has sucked for the past 20 years, not for just the years before 2006.
	9 years ago	Post 113 • IP flag post

Collector 60	60 ccmp99 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton You know Ramos' style has changed a lot since this artwork was published back in 2002 - 2006. His stuff has gotten better since it was published back in 2006? Even if you think his recent stuff is better (it's not), it doesn't make up for the 20+ years before that when he sucked spoon. " My name is Stelbert_Stylton and I think my opinions are facts."
	9 years ago	Post 114 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton You know Ramos' style has changed a lot since this artwork was published back in 2002 - 2006. His stuff has gotten better since it was published back in 2006? Even if you think his recent stuff is better (it's not), it doesn't make up for the 20+ years before that when he sucked spoon. That's just like your opinion man... Also he only started in 1994/95 . So 2006 would be about halfway through his current career. 20 years before 2006 he would be about 14 years old. I get it it's your opinion, but to say he "sucked dick for twenty years" c'mon man. If your not a fan of people with different unique styles that stray from anatomy you probably hate at least 50% of comic books artists, including Kirby and Ditko. I never said it was only Ramos' anatomy that sucks, he's terrible at pretty much everything, including storytelling. And you're right, I probably do hate 50% of all artists that have ever drawn a comic book. How can you not? If you're saying you like every artist that has ever drawn a comic you are either a spoon or a spoon.
	9 years ago	Post 115 • IP flag post

Collector 60	60 ccmp99 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton You know Ramos' style has changed a lot since this artwork was published back in 2002 - 2006. His stuff has gotten better since it was published back in 2006? Even if you think his recent stuff is better (it's not), it doesn't make up for the 20+ years before that when he sucked spoon. That's just like your opinion man... Also he only started in 1994/95 . So 2006 would be about halfway through his current career. 20 years before 2006 he would be about 14 years old. I get it it's your opinion, but to say he "sucked dick for twenty years" c'mon man. If your not a fan of people with different unique styles that stray from anatomy you probably hate at least 50% of comic books artists, including Kirby and Ditko. I never said it was only Ramos' anatomy that sucks, he's terrible at pretty much everything, including storytelling. And you're right, I probably do hate 50% of all artists that have ever drawn a comic book. How can you not? If you're saying you like every artist that has ever drawn a comic you are either a spoon or a spoon. Good Luck to you sir. I wish you the best of luck in your further adventures of hating good things. Dispise Greg Land, and Rob Liefeld's art. I tend to avoid Mark Bagley's stuff. I refuse to give up on Romita Jr, I dont like Frank Millers more recent work, I love Steve Mcniven's realistic style, I love Art Adams, Joe Quesada, Frank Quitely, Fiona Staples, Joe Madureira, Michael Turner, Greg Capullo, John Buscema, Romita Sr, Kirby, Byrnes, Adams early art work. I think Ramos is right up there with many of these artists, especially Quesada and Madureira.
	9 years ago	Post 116 • IP flag post

Moderator 4.27K	4.27K The_Watcher private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Let's not let things get personal
	9 years ago	Post 117 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton You know Ramos' style has changed a lot since this artwork was published back in 2002 - 2006. His stuff has gotten better since it was published back in 2006? Even if you think his recent stuff is better (it's not), it doesn't make up for the 20+ years before that when he sucked spoon. " My name is Stelbert_Stylton and I think my opinions are facts." Is that a fact?
	9 years ago	Post 118 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by VillageIdiot Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton And if anyone thinks I'm not being fair, I'm willing to post a large list of artists I like and you can find one you don't like to rag on. Nope. You are correct. Ramos and his ilk are horrid "artists". The fact they are employed and getting regular work is nothing more than a result of a leadership gap, and a lack of truly creative minds heading the current corporate structure. A disturbing lack of interest in sticking to a standard and respecting even the most minute skill regarding proper proportion and anatomy. A daft, impulsive, rift from tradition to appease a temporary, or social angst for "diversity" and representation. Its actually comical to watch. Times change? taste changes? fine. The human form does not! Not all comic artists are John Buscema. Let's see a list of your favorite artists that stay true to the human form. I said I would post a list of artists I like, not that "stay true to the human form". Why are you so stuck on anatomy? Ramos doesn't suck just because of his anatomy, that's just one symptom of the disease.
	9 years ago	Post 119 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Quote: Originally Posted by ccmp99 Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton You know Ramos' style has changed a lot since this artwork was published back in 2002 - 2006. His stuff has gotten better since it was published back in 2006? Even if you think his recent stuff is better (it's not), it doesn't make up for the 20+ years before that when he sucked spoon. That's just like your opinion man... Also he only started in 1994/95 . So 2006 would be about halfway through his current career. 20 years before 2006 he would be about 14 years old. I get it it's your opinion, but to say he "sucked dick for twenty years" c'mon man. If your not a fan of people with different unique styles that stray from anatomy you probably hate at least 50% of comic books artists, including Kirby and Ditko. I never said it was only Ramos' anatomy that sucks, he's terrible at pretty much everything, including storytelling. And you're right, I probably do hate 50% of all artists that have ever drawn a comic book. How can you not? If you're saying you like every artist that has ever drawn a comic you are either a spoon or a spoon. Good Luck to you sir. I wish you the best of luck in your further adventures of hating good things. Thanks, I hope you get some glasses soon for your failing eyesight.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. 59.7K	59.7K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by The_Watcher Let's not let things get personal Are you new to message boarding?
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	Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by The_Watcher Let's not let things get personal Are you new to message boarding? I wish
	9 years ago	Post 122 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Who's worse, Frank Robbins or Frank Springer?
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-Our Odin- Rest in Peace 39.35K	39.35K Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	I think Sergio Aragones is a GREAT artist!! And Groo would just be another Conan wannabe if he was drawn realistically.
	9 years ago	Post 124 • IP flag post

Collector 1.09K	1.09K Stelbert_Stylton private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Jesse_O I think Sergio Aragones is a GREAT artist!! And Groo would just be another Conan wannabe if he was drawn realistically. I don't think Sergio is a great comic book artist, but he is a great cartoonist. Plus, his background is a bit unique - how many other artists drew cartoons with no words as much as Sergio?
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. 59.7K	59.7K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by The_Watcher Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Quote: Originally Posted by The_Watcher Let's not let things get personal Are you new to message boarding? I wish It's like water boarding with salty fanboy tears.
	9 years ago	Post 126 • IP flag post

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	Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton Who's worse, Frank Robbins or Frank Springer? I'm biased, but that's because Robbins drew characters I really liked. You could make a case that it's six of one, half a dozen of the other
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Collector 1.84K	1.84K Kav private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	If Frank Robbins isn't a terrible artist then no one is. Everyone can draw. Whee!
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Collector 1.36K	1.36K The_Curmudgeon private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Stelbert_Stylton I don't think Sergio is a great comic book artist, but he is a great cartoonist. And here is the issue with Ramos. He seems to be a cartoonist trying to be a comic book artist. His heavy cartoony influences like Disney & anime/manga styles are not pleasant to behold if you're looking for a "grown-up" or intellectually engaging experience. Scottie Young is another that I abhor. I find the artistic immaturity of the style offensive and disengaging. While I'm at it, I might as well express my distaste for those stupid Funko POP! figures. Every time I see one it makes me wretch.
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