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Ditch Fahrenheit's Journal #7.1268

Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
actually Joe Jusko was the Dell Otto of the 1990s
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Neal Adams was the Dell Otto of the 1970s


lol
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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
actually Joe Jusko was the more talented Dell Otto of the 1990s
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
Dell'otto is certainly interesting, but he hides a lot of his mistakes in darkness, hoping for a "dramatic effect"...and it certainly works.
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actually Joe Jusko was the more talented Dell Otto of the 1990s


Jusko has an interesting, quasi-realist bent to all of his work.
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"How would these characters look if they were real beings?"
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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
I picked up something today at half price books that I think you would like

Melting pot sketchbook
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
Johns, not Jones.

Duh.
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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
what are the most published comic books (example Spawn 1 or X-Men #1)?
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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
Wouldn't it be something from the GA?
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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
I thought Spawn was a million copies plus
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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
Was it? I didn't know that.
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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
I should just add RMA to my google searches

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Youngblood #1, by the way, broke the record for an "independent" comic print run, formerly held by the incredibly late Aliens vs. Predator #1.

But yes, Spawn #1 clocked in at 1.75 million copies.

Other million+ books (not exhaustive):

Turok #1 - 1.75 million
Superman #75 - 4 million
X-Force #1 - 1.75 million
X-Men #1 - 8 million
Adventures of Superman #500 - 2.5 million

Coocoo bananas, indeed...
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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
I picked up one of these today at the flea market (cheap) and was thinking 1 of 50,000, whoa that's a lot


what's amazing is that these sell for more than $1-$4


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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
That's amazing.

I can't imagine there being demand for 8 million copies of X-Men 1.
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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
This is interesting for comparative purposes:




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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
I'd like to see that in a pie chart if possible

j/k

is there the same stats for 90s books?
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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
I think so...check the link.

Every time I look for individual title distribution numbers I'm frustrated though. Sales are usually reported in aggregate dollars and it takes some detective work.
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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
Regarding X-Men 1 V2

According to Guinness World Records, this issue is still the best-selling comic book of all-time, with sales of over 8.1 million copies.
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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
To put this in persective, if those sales were limited to the US (they weren't), it would represent 3.2% of the population at one copy each.

Mind boggling.
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Originally Posted by jsilverjanet
I should just add RMA to my google searches

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Originally Posted by RockMyAmadeus
Youngblood #1, by the way, broke the record for an "independent" comic print run, formerly held by the incredibly late Aliens vs. Predator #1.

But yes, Spawn #1 clocked in at 1.75 million copies.

Other million+ books (not exhaustive):

Turok #1 - 1.75 million
Superman #75 - 4 million
X-Force #1 - 1.75 million
X-Men #1 - 8 million
Adventures of Superman #500 - 2.5 million

Coocoo bananas, indeed...


That guy's such a know-it-all.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
Print runs were what killed the comics industry.

Instead of understanding what they were selling, and who they were selling to, the publishers just said "who cares, let's print a million of them!" and the whole thing collapsed.

If there had been an adult in the room, anybody, saying "whoa, fellas, what's the point of selling cases to people who are hoping to flip them in a year for 10x what they paid? That's stupid, and it's going to kill us."

There wasn't, and it did.
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Quesada's "print to order" program was a very, very good start...it was just 10 years too late.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
And look what we're doing now...it's the same thing, all over again.

"How can you say that, RMA, DB? It's totally different from the 90's!!"

The details may be different, but the principles remain the same: people get the stupid idea in their heads that "comic books = $$$$$$" and now we have a whole NEW generation of 20 and 30 somethings who have no idea what happened in the 90's, but think they know it all (yes, I'm referring to SOT, but he's just one of many.)

Well, go for it. They can have the house of cards. When the whole thing collapses, as it must, they can hold the bag.

Bitter rantings from a guy they claim "missed out"? Maybe. But have you seen what I was able to amass in the late 90's/early 00's for nothing because of what happened in the early 90's...? How can anyone say I "missed out" when I bought a 9.0-9.4 Turtles #1 off of eBay in 1999 for $66 shipped...? Not bragging, just an example of how badly the entire market crashed.

But now people will pay $3,000 for a 3 year old variant, because they either A. think it will be more expensive next year, and don't want to have to pay more for it then, and/or B. think it will be more expensive next year, and want to flip it.

hm
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
When people are afraid to not get it now because they think it will be more expensive later is when the balance has shifted.
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Collector Ditch_Fahrenheit private msg quote post Address this user
Greater fool theory in practice.

Couple that with demographic population shifts (Aging Baby-Boomer & Gen X, etc.), and the inevitable supply side dump as retirement nears; and a new generation that loves the movies but doesn't buy the comics...well...it should be interesting.
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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
it's amazing spawn 1 sells for decent money considering all the copies made. none of the other books do as well on that list
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Collector jsilverjanet private msg quote post Address this user
I was surprised on Fathom and Tomb Raider but I believe both had multiple covers
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Collector MetalPSI private msg quote post Address this user
I'm almost ready to buy my first Spawn #1
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