Newsstand/Direct Edition Variants? Got 'em!2518
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| I'm blown away by how fast CBCS did a 180 on this issue after one thread discussed it. | ||
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| Wouldn't you think that all this planning and subsequent roll out was in the pipeline before a few days ago? | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| Pardon my ignorance on this topic but I don't understand why this a big deal. Can't you tell by looking at the UPC code or Spidey head or Cap head etc and determine if it's Newsstand or Direct Editions? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Yes, but in catering to a niche market, they make a few people happy and make a few extra bucks in the process. I would say that the biggest deciding factor in doing it was that the cgc wasn't. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Makes sense, thank you!! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Maybe. Educated people? Sure. Everyone? No. As Stephen Bagley said on facebook: they put the title and issue number on the label, and those are obvious too, aren't they? But the real value of this will be the eventual census. You can't "see" the books in a census. And I don't believe for a second that the Batman #12 newsstand thread had anything to do with this decision.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown And the census is where this will have value. That, I can see as being a big deal. |
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| The way Steve worded his explanation a week ago about why CBCS didn't do it did not make it sound like this was in the pipeline. If this was in the pipeline I would have expected Steve's usual answer of "soon." | ||
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I like this. Hopefully they can create a census that will show a true rarity. My only concern is what about all the books graded to this point will they just kind of through them in with the direct market or is the census so far out they are just going to start counting now.  |
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How would a book like this be designated now? It is DM (Direct Sales) vs Newsstand (Direct Sales is absent from the bar code) but also a price variant  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Sho' nuff, brah. |
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| @ DarthLego - adding a couple of words to the label may not have been such a difficult inclusion, especially if the label information is computerized and all it requires is a check mark in the software, in order to have the label "auto-add" the new description. CBCS may have discovered that there is no cost association to adding it, but also realized it is something the customer wants. IMO. |
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| @ JLS_Comics - not only a price variant....but also has a style variant in the title & background color variant. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC What about this one? I know for a fact that this was a direct market book, I purchased it new from Bedrock City. Also note the lack of Capital City's "triple c" in the number box.  |
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| @The_Curmudgeon That's interesting a quick ebay search shows only barcode issues. | ||
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Or maybe this one? Direct box on back, but has the "triple c." |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ZosoRocks Just noticed that the barcode numbering is also different. That is related to the price, but clearly a different set-up. |
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Or these? Doctor Strange was direct market only at the time, so Marvel printed the DS/GR Special for distribution on the newsstands for the GR readers that wanted the rest of the story from GR #12. Note the UPC on the direct version and the direct box on the newsstand.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by The_Curmudgeon Interesting.....good info...you can clearly see that the cover picture is the same, but the title and issue numbers are not. Talk about maxing out possible sales!! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ZosoRocks I give kudos to Marvel for printing the DS/GR Special, it shows that somebody actually did care about their readers at that time. If I had no LCS, only newsstands, and were an avid GR reader, I would be upset at not getting the rest of the story from GR #12. |
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| Good job y'all for showing exactly why this was never done before. It's a hornets nest and a nightmare to research all these quirky books that don't fit the norm. CBCS has their work cut out. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego I believe the extra legwork up front will pay dividends in the long run as it will not only set them ahead of competitors but will also give people needing info on these differences a reputable place to go to research and track the data (talking long term here) It's a very smart move on CBCS's part |
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| It's not too bad. There are only a handful...maybe about a dozen, probably not more than 30...that are "weird" books. The "CCC" symbol stands for "Curtis Circulation Company", for those wondering, not Capital City. Capital City was a Direct market distributor; Curtis Circulation Co. has distributed newsstand comics for decades, and has been affiliated at times with Marvel. (It's a muddy history, but that's the gist.) In 1990-ish, Marvel (or Quebecor, who was printing their "offset" books, like the Moon Knight #25 above, or Alpha Flight, for example) made an error and put UPC codes on these books that didn't need them, since they weren't distributed at the newsstand.... ...OR... ...it was an internal experiment to see if these "Direct market only" books should return to the newsstands. In any event, if there is no Direct AND newsstand version, it's safe to say that these anomalies will be classified as Direct market versions. They're known, and CBCS is doubtless aware of them. |
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| @DocBrown - thanks for sharing your expertise on the many topics you've commented upon. You continue to "learn me". ;o) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JLS_Comics The price difference is common for newsstands of the last 20+ years (going back to 1996!) It's not a price variant; it's just that the Direct edition and the newsstand edition were priced at different prices. For it to be a "price variant", you'd have to have two versions of the same edition, like two Directs, or two newsstands, priced differently (and these do exist.) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by The_Curmudgeon This was only Direct; there's no newsstand version of this...almost certainly. When they reprinted X-Force #1, whoever set the printing used the newsstand plate for the front cover. The Curtis symbol erroneously appears on some Direct books from the era...in fact, there are even some books that have BOTH the UK price AND the Curtis symbol overprinted on it! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ZosoRocks Yeah, that cover had a complete redesign in between! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DocBrown That does make sense. I typically refer to them as price variants to identify a difference between the cover images (and letters, words, etc.) Nevertheless, it further piques my interest as to how this particular issue's label will be notated |
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