So I was cracking a slab...2434
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 I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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Quote:Originally Posted by jrs we all do. then the magicians of the world had him disappear. airquotes. |
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| Would love to hear a CBCS opinion on this. I did one last week and the only defect on the tabs were from where my screwdriver bit into it. Had I used something softer, I cant imagine it would be noticeable after. | ||
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| the new CGC slabs DO feel light and super strong / tough I don't have many slabs, but my new BTTF cast signed book is a 2017 slab |
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| I've cracked many CGC slabs, the new one(2017) included, and I've never seen anything like this where it would be possible to put it back together. | ||
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| The OP didn't 'CRACK' it...he opened and closed it. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by I_AM_IRON_MAN A quick search shows this is possible with a CGC case as well (threads on the CGC boards). CBCS says on the site "cutting-edge, tamper evident outer case"...  |
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| That may be, I've never experienced it though. Nothing is fool proof, but the OP's slab looks 100% after 'cracking' it. Scary is all. | ||
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Someone could switch the inner sleeves leaving the wrong grade with the wrong comic. On a high end book switching a 7.5 and an 8.5 could make a lot of money for a dishonest person. |
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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| To really screw someone over, they would have to effectively swap the labels. I have cracked out cgc books without breaking the posts. If someone is determined to defraud another person, they will find a way. | ||
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The labels can be swapped by taking a long knife and running it along the heat seals. Then it can be swapped out with a pair of hemostats. I had a couple of slabs I was going to CPR so I was playing around. Still opening the outer shell is super hard and looking at dielinfinite original pictures it looks like the third picture is showing a hairline crack. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JWKyle I don't see it. That is interesting though. Would you question a hairline crack on a slab? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by I_AM_IRON_MAN Hairline crack no not really and is a label swap possible --- yes probably. I think where money is involved there is always someone trying to play the system. This thread has done one thing for me. If I buy a second hand slab I will look it over better for any signs of tampering. Which I should have been doing anyway but sometimes I take honesty for granted. |
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 CBCS broke up with me over Facebook.
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego It is not. If you use the right tools and know what you are doing, it can be taken apart and put back together with almost no proof of tampering. I alerted the forum to this earlier and I am now concerned that it can be reproduced with little effort. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by JWKyle Yes +1. Very sage observation. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CFP_Comics You must take them apart frequently, any percentage of slabs? Also, you must crack slabs from all of the companies any difference or does this happen with all of them? |
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| I just purchased a cgc slab (older one. Casing Similar to the cbcs ones now) second hand and it arrived with a crack in a top corner...the description did not identify damage and you cannot tell from the photos...was thinking I would just get it reholdered some day as the book looks in the shape of the grade label and I got a pretty good deal anyway...but i figured it wasn't tampered with because I would have thought the damage would be more than just along the edge...looks like it had a minor fall or something landed on it....perhaps I'll post a picture and see what others conclude... | ||
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CBCS broke up with me over Facebook.
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Quote:Originally Posted by I_AM_IRON_MAN I crack out my share of books. Here are my observations. 1. New CGC slab. Almost impossible to take the book out without massive damage. You would know if anyone even attempted to switch out a book from scratches and breaks to the plastic from trying to pry it open. 2. CGC disaster slab. Almost the same thing as it is basically the same outer case. If someone was able to pry it apart, swapping out a book would be simple to do due to the Mylar sheets used. 3. Older CGC wells. The case is easy to pop open with your bare hands, so if you are careful you could pop the pins and glue them back. Difficult but not impossible. 4. CBCS slab. With the right tool the top clips can be popped off with no damage and then put back together. This is just the outer case I am talking about. Since the label is sealed in the inner well this would take a very skilled craftsman to cut out and seam back together. Granted, you would need another label to swap out with, but again not impossible |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CFP_Comics That was good insight on real world experience! |
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| I've had plenty of cases crack just from handling. | ||
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life.
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| great post and observations, CFP | ||
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| This is very concerning as it would be nearly impossible to tell if the inner well had been tampered with or a label switched out once it's back in the outer slab. If there's a way, then there's always the will by some unsavory characters to try and rip people off. | ||
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Always found tgis just last night  |
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The grades are always "printed" ... what does that even mean?  |
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| @DarthLego true I think he means it was a fake print out swaped from a lower grade to higher I assume. Does CGC have the perforation lines on the label lile CBCS? | ||
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| @BigRig what website was that sale/auction on? | ||
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| Offer up | ||
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| Does anyone know if cgc reholders comics at conventions, or could tell me if a damaged case would not qualify? I just purchased a comic, but when received the case is damaged (couldn't see it from them photos,wasn't disclosed in the auction discribed). Comic looks undo get and to be the condition graded. I don't believe it was tampered, but would like to know 100% before I send it in for a reholder. Would rather not pay shipping to and from too. | ||
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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| They do not. You have to mail it in or drop it off at a show to be taken back to Sarasota and reholdered. | ||
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