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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
Last I knew this was a 5k book in NM. Holy hell that went up fast 😳.

Considering I have had over 100 hours of Groot-style tattoo work done, I feel like a gdamn fool not getting a copy of this 5 years ago. πŸ˜”

https://www.ebay.com/itm/172515815431
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Collector vacaboca private msg quote post Address this user
Maybe you should slab yourself
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
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Maybe you should slab yourself


Considering life insurance, my family would certainly make out pretty well if I were to be slabbed πŸ˜†
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Collector OrbitCityComics private msg quote post Address this user
Someone actually bought it. Final price was just slightly north of 80k.
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Forum Crier OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user
If it was mine to sale, I'd be ecstatic! But in all seriousness, that's ridiculously over the top. I don't see that value holding up and whoever paid that price is not the sharpest crayon in the box... On the other hand, if you have that kind of money to blow, who cares!
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
Almost certainly shilled.
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
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Almost certainly shilled.


Nothin wrong wit a little bit o shillin 😁 Heritage allows it, not sure why ebay frowns on it though. If you get caught with your pants down, gots to pay the man his premium.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
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Almost certainly shilled.


Nothin wrong wit a little bit o shillin 😁 Heritage allows it, not sure why ebay frowns on it though. If you get caught with your pants down, gots to pay the man his premium.


eBay used to allow shill bidding.

Betcha didn't know that.

However, both the shill and the "real" bidder are clearly playing games with each other by the end, and this isn't a real sale.

It's one thing to have a "shill reserve" that is modest and reasonable...it's another to just be silly.

And, though I didn't have to check, GPA doesn't record the sale, and reports it as fake...as well they should.
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
Youre saying someone is reporting it as a "fake" sale??
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Collector KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user
@DocBrown Proof/Evidence? Or is this an "alt-fact"?
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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And, though I didn't have to check, GPA doesn't record the sale, and reports it as fake...as well they should.


He's assuming.
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Collector KingNampa private msg quote post Address this user
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And, though I didn't have to check, GPA doesn't record the sale, and reports it as fake...as well they should.


He's assuming.
Ok but but assuming based upon what? Thin air? Glass ball? Lol
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
One of the two bidders was a new account only bidding on thIs item while the other bidder seems normally to bid on PokΓ©mon trading card. Cannot take this auction seriously. Wouldn't be surprised if you see the presice same book back in the market shortly
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
Right but at 80k the ebay fees are STEEP. Cant just do a fake action without price
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Collector Logan510 private msg quote post Address this user
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And, though I didn't have to check, GPA doesn't record the sale, and reports it as fake...as well they should.


He's assuming.
Ok but but assuming based upon what? Thin air? Glass ball? Lol


The circumstantial evidence is pretty overwhelming. It doesn't take gorilla math to figure this one out.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I checked GPA. The sale has yet to be listed.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
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Right but at 80k the ebay fees are STEEP. Cant just do a fake action without price


I am sure there are ways around this.
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Collector Logan510 private msg quote post Address this user
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I checked GPA. The sale has yet to be listed.


Hey Doc, it's listed at the very bottom as a suspected fake sale with their reasoning.
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Collector Logan510 private msg quote post Address this user
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Right but at 80k the ebay fees are STEEP. Cant just do a fake action without price


I am sure there are ways around this.


I don't know if it's changed, but I have had it before when someone cancelled a sale of mine after winning the auction from eBay, telling me their wife wouldn't allow them to buy the book.

The sale was still listed on GPA with no details of the cancellation.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
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I checked GPA. The sale has yet to be listed.


Hey Doc, it's listed at the very bottom as a suspected fake sale with their reasoning.


Are the reasons in line with above?
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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I checked GPA. The sale has yet to be listed.


Hey Doc, it's listed at the very bottom as a suspected fake sale with their reasoning.

I didn't scroll to the bottom:

(9.2) Actual sale/may not be genuien sale - final price bid-up by low feedback (non comic book) buyer/no positive feedback exchanged/publ 1960 $80,299 Feb-2017
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
So its "fake" just because the buyer has low feedback?

And, if someone has evidence of a way of skirting ebay fees (which I'm skeptical exists espec on high value), I'm all ears. I have a few books I'd love to boost the value of 😁
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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So its "fake" just because the buyer has low feedback?

And, if someone has evidence of a way of skirting ebay fees (which I'm skeptical exists espec on high value), I'm all ears. I have a few books I'd love to boost the value of 😁

Don't be purposefully obtuse.
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Collector dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user
Skipping eBay fees...PM, "can we do a deal outside eBay?" or "what is your email address?"
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
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@DocBrown Proof/Evidence? Or is this an "alt-fact"?


You folks are a cynical bunch, aintcha?

I take it none of you have and/or use GPA, huh...?

Evidence that this "auction" result is fake:

1. Look at the bidding history. Notice that there are only two bidders after $5,800. A (presumably) real bidder, and the shill. Notice how the shill is bidding. People don't bid "99" increments because they want to win...they do it because they want to lose. They're trying to expose another bidder's high bid, without going over it. Whether they bid BEFORE or AFTER, it's still a shill bid.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=172515815431&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565

2. The "winner" didn't leave feedback. Not proof, but certainly an indication.

3. The low feedback bidder bid on a single item...this one...in the last several months, making their bidding activity with this seller 100%, and on just this item. Again, not proof, but definitely an indicator.

4. GPA, which has access to the eBay database (that everyone can get access to), came to the same conclusion, as noted by others above.

As for eBay fees, are you folks not aware that eBay fees are capped at $750 per item? And $250 for premium and higher store owners? And that it's fairly straightforward to apply for a fee refund when/if the "buyer" doesn't pay?

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/fees.html

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/credits.html

Do your homework, people.
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
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So its "fake" just because the buyer has low feedback?

And, if someone has evidence of a way of skirting ebay fees (which I'm skeptical exists espec on high value), I'm all ears. I have a few books I'd love to boost the value of 😁

Don't be purposefully obtuse.


I'm really not. Maybe the sale situation seems obvious to you, but it's not to me.

I thought ebay was flat percentage. In which case, who in their right mind shills up to 80k? Or even flat out fakes it to 80k? @DocBrown just pointed out that it's not flat percentage, which changes the game.

In any case, if the person who bought it actually paid it, IMO the sale is LEGIT; shill on the other side or not. However, if the winner was the shill, then of course it's fake.
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Collector slym2none private msg quote post Address this user
IF the person who bought it actually pays for it.

IF.

That's a big keyword here.

*munches popcorn*
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
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IF the person who bought it actually pays for it.

IF.

That's a big keyword here.

*munches popcorn*


...and if the two bidders are not connected - big if.

Trust me - we will see that book again
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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So its "fake" just because the buyer has low feedback?

And, if someone has evidence of a way of skirting ebay fees (which I'm skeptical exists espec on high value), I'm all ears. I have a few books I'd love to boost the value of 😁

Don't be purposefully obtuse.


I'm really not. Maybe the sale situation seems obvious to you, but it's not to me.

I thought ebay was flat percentage. In which case, who in their right mind shills up to 80k? Or even flat out fakes it to 80k? @DocBrown just pointed out that it's not flat percentage, which changes the game.

In any case, if the person who bought it actually paid it, IMO the sale is LEGIT; shill on the other side or not. However, if the winner was the shill, then of course it's fake.

No biggie. If you don't know, then you don't know. It's also no big deal for the involved parties to just cancel the deal. That way, the seller can recoup his final value fees.
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
@DrWatson Simple cancellation of the deal kills the fees? I had no idea it was that easy to be shady on ebay, wth πŸ€”.
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