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Collector Hexigore private msg quote post Address this user
Can anyone speculate on the effect of CBCS slabs at this point?
I’ve been watching them on eBay and they seem to have come down. I only collect for my PC and am not looking to resell. Just wondering what others are thinking.
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
I don't really see why they'd come down just because CBCS will soon be no more. However, if they ARE coming down because of that, it may be time to go bargain hunting.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
They've always done poorly at auction compared to buy it now. As a seller, I'm not discounting any books. If anything I'm pricing them on the higher end of recent CGC sales or even higher, since the market has lost confidence in CGC slabs due to bananagate. The market overall has been declining though. People are very worried about the economy and spending money on collectibles is at the bottom of their list.
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user
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The market overall has been declining though. People are very worried about the economy and spending money on collectibles is at the bottom of their list.

Agree 100%. My brother turned 60 last December. He's been trying to find a job since he got laid off in the middle of last year.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
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Can anyone speculate on the effect of CBCS slabs at this point?
I’ve been watching them on eBay and they seem to have come down. I only collect for my PC and am not looking to resell. Just wondering what others are thinking.


I'm in the same boat as you.

I have 99.99% CBCS slabs and .01% CGC slabs.

I think that for now CBCS slabs will come down for a variety of reasons none of which has to do with CBCS.

When people realize that CBCS has/had a truer grade and superior holder I think the prices will sky rocket.

I'll continue to buy CBCS slabs for my personal collection regardless.
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
I don’t see how a CBCS slab can make the book inside it less valuable. There have never been any major issues with CBCS slabs damaging books or CBCS over-grading books. Plus, the value lies in the book, not the slab. If I thought the slab was hurting the value of what’s in it, I would simply remove it from the slab and sell it raw.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
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I don’t see how a CBCS slab can make the book inside it less valuable. There have never been any major issues with CBCS slabs damaging books or CBCS over-grading books. Plus, the value lies in the book, not the slab. If I thought the slab was hurting the value of what’s in it, I would simply remove it from the slab and sell it raw.


Very true. The slab doesn't make the value the contents does. Just like a Picasso is worth millions and the frame can come from the dollar store.

But with a CBCS slab it gives you satisfaction that you don't have to re-slab to keep the value of the contents.

Would you pay more for a CBCS 9.8 over a CGC 9.8 knowing that you'd have to replace the CGC holder? I would.

And as I like to say "To each his own." and or "Whatever lets you sleep at night."
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CBCS Head Grader SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user
I honestly think that years down the road, CBCS slabs will bring a premium due to the fact that the hobby will come to realize that the book inside is superior to books in other slabs with the same grade. Just like what happened with the early slabs from CGC.

Not to mention the CBCS slab is superior and protects your books. Crossing your books over into a different slab is like taking your child out of a Volvo and putting her in a 1976 Ford Pinto. It doesn't make any sense.

But I might be biased. I know what went into this company from behind the curtain. There were a lot of people here trying their best to make it the best product on the market. We had our problems, but we did succeed in this primary goal.

If nothing else, the fact stands that the hobby was made better because of the people at CBCS, and we wouldn't have made it as long as we did without our amazing customers. So thank you, everyone! It was a pleasure to have been on this quest with you!
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
if you have a graded comic with a population of 1. It will be one of a kind. there will never been a cbcs graded copy of that comic. I need to check population reports of what I go. I remember I had a 1 of a few but had the best grade
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
My mighty Morphin power rangers #9 villain variant is still one of two. But has best grade
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Collector CapCityComics private msg quote post Address this user
It is unfortunate that buyers in the market will further conflate the values of CBCS books with the shuttering of the company/services. As a seller, I've never tried to sell for less than the graded price averages on the market regardless of grading companies, and have done okay with that. The market across the board has been down for over a year now, so the dips are hitting across all grading companies and comic books. As others have mentioned, might be a good time to buy these books low until the market shifts again. For myself at least, I'll always buy a CBCS book over the competitors as I come across them now and in the future anyways.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
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It is unfortunate that buyers in the market will further conflate the values of CBCS books with the shuttering of the company/services. As a seller, I've never tried to sell for less than the graded price averages on the market regardless of grading companies, and have done okay with that. The market across the board has been down for over a year now, so the dips are hitting across all grading companies and comic books. As others have mentioned, might be a good time to buy these books low until the market shifts again. For myself at least, I'll always buy a CBCS book over the competitors as I come across them now and in the future anyways.


I've been taking advantage of this "dip" and I've gotten some good deals on CBCS slabs.
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Collector DPK419 private msg quote post Address this user
Is it possible that CGC slabs, or maybe slabs in general are becoming less valuable. Saw these 2 sales in this weeks MCS auction where lower grade raws are selling for as much or more than CGC's


I did a double take when I saw this one.

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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
@DPK419 it's hard to tell. MCS undergrades raw books. Someone probably thinks they can clean & press the Green Lantern #87 7.5 and maybe get a 9.6-9.8.
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Collector DPK419 private msg quote post Address this user
@flanders Fair point, I believe I've gotten a 9.6 from one of their 8.5's
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Collector co2_2 private msg quote post Address this user
@DPK419 yes, the gap between raw and slabs has been closing over the last year. I've heard a lot of dealers saying that unless a very expensive book, customers are tending to seek raw. I think a lot of buyers are wanting to uncover that raw gem with the potential to slab for themselves.
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Collector ThorneArt private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by SteveRicketts
I honestly think that years down the road, CBCS slabs will bring a premium due to the fact that the hobby will come to realize that the book inside is superior to books in other slabs with the same grade. Just like what happened with the early slabs from CGC.

Not to mention the CBCS slab is superior and protects your books. Crossing your books over into a different slab is like taking your child out of a Volvo and putting her in a 1976 Ford Pinto. It doesn't make any sense.

But I might be biased. I know what went into this company from behind the curtain. There were a lot of people here trying their best to make it the best product on the market. We had our problems, but we did succeed in this primary goal.

If nothing else, the fact stands that the hobby was made better because of the people at CBCS, and we wouldn't have made it as long as we did without our amazing customers. So thank you, everyone! It was a pleasure to have been on this quest with you!


I agree, but I believe that there will be a short dip in prices until buyers start buying up CBCS slabs to try and cross and flip. Then the comics do not get a bump and possibly a dip in grade for those crossovers. Then people start buying CBCS slabs because the books are better quality condition books. I agree that in the long term that CBCS slabs could develop a premium.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I have never sold a CBCS graded book for less that its counterpart from the cgc. Never. Those who have, don't know how to sell comic books.

Let that go down in some internet archives history.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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I don’t see how a CBCS slab can make the book inside it less valuable

It doesn't. A slab makes a raw book MORE valuable. It's just that some slabs make it more valuable than others.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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Those who have, don't know how to sell comic books.


Or we aren't selling the right comics. It's hard to move obscure titles and dreck. Maybe I'll try advertising my MCS listings on CS.
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