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When I said, “I don’t mean I don’t trust him that they are genuine…,” what I meant was this: logic dictates that if he had purchased the signed items and wasn’t sure of their authenticity, he would have included a disclaimer — something like, “These signatures were not obtained by me, so I cannot guarantee they’re genuine.” He’s a professional, and I can’t believe that if he hadn’t obtained the signatures himself, it never occurred to him that they could be fake. I know for certain that if I were in his position, I would have made that clear.

In his description, he wrote:

“Hey all!
Welcome to my 4th of July sale. Something for everyone!
There will be comics, signed comics, signed graphic novels, vintage 1966 Topps Batman cards, video games, bulk lots, original art, memorabilia, and more!!!”

He’s clearly not new to the business world. I still believe the signatures are genuine, but it seems that CBCS may be unwilling to authenticate them because of the inherent risk — especially with such high-profile signatures that could later, as seen in a recent auction, turn out to be fake.

I still have some faith in Mr. Borock.

I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 83.39K	83.39K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by sportshort When I said, “I don’t mean I don’t trust him that they are genuine…,” what I meant was this: logic dictates that if he had purchased the signed items and wasn’t sure of their authenticity, he would have included a disclaimer — something like, “These signatures were not obtained by me, so I cannot guarantee they’re genuine.” He’s a professional, and I can’t believe that if he hadn’t obtained the signatures himself, it never occurred to him that they could be fake. I know for certain that if I were in his position, I would have made that clear. In his description, he wrote: “Hey all! Welcome to my 4th of July sale. Something for everyone! There will be comics, signed comics, signed graphic novels, vintage 1966 Topps Batman cards, video games, bulk lots, original art, memorabilia, and more!!!” He’s clearly not new to the business world. I still believe the signatures are genuine, but it seems that CBCS may be unwilling to authenticate them because of the inherent risk — especially with such high-profile signatures that could later, as seen in a recent auction, turn out to be fake. I still have some faith in Mr. Borock. Your logic regarding the signatures is sound. I really hope your faith is not misplaced.
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I hold the record for itchy trigger finger. 23.43K	23.43K sportshort private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Please welcome me to the club!!! Both of my submissions for signature authentication, that I purchased from Steve Borock, were rejected. One was Jerry Siegel and the other was Jack Kirby. This both sucks and blows!! Again if you can't trust one of the founders of both CGC and CBCS , then who can you trust? BTW, I don't mean I don't trust him that they are genuine but that CBCs doesn't, is amazing to me. He was a founder of your company, if he's wrong, who's right? He sold them as genuine, so I believe him, but this is really discouraging. I will Probably submit them to CGC and cross my fingers. GRRRRR!
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We should have the forum rate our packages. 41.28K	41.28K HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	So Lee, Kirby, and Siegel now. I have a theory but I won’t publicly voice it.
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We should have the forum rate our packages. 41.28K	41.28K HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	You are correct he isn’t a sig authenticator. Hasn’t he had access to them though? It’s an awful shitty thing to insinuate but the whole thing has been tits up from the get go. I’m sorry about the hot take but it’s something that has occurred to me and only me.
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I hold the record for itchy trigger finger. 23.43K	23.43K sportshort private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	When I said, “I don’t mean I don’t trust him that they are genuine…,” what I meant was this: logic dictates that if he had purchased the signed items and wasn’t sure of their authenticity, he would have included a disclaimer — something like, “These signatures were not obtained by me, so I cannot guarantee they’re genuine.” He’s a professional, and I can’t believe that if he hadn’t obtained the signatures himself, it never occurred to him that they could be fake. I know for certain that if I were in his position, I would have made that clear. In his description, he wrote: “Hey all! Welcome to my 4th of July sale. Something for everyone! There will be comics, signed comics, signed graphic novels, vintage 1966 Topps Batman cards, video games, bulk lots, original art, memorabilia, and more!!!” He’s clearly not new to the business world. I still believe the signatures are genuine, but it seems that CBCS may be unwilling to authenticate them because of the inherent risk — especially with such high-profile signatures that could later, as seen in a recent auction, turn out to be fake. I still have some faith in Mr. Borock.
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. 32.54K	32.54K KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	I'm always worried about any Kirby's I see - didn't his wife famously sign many, many, many for him?
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. 64.06K	64.06K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 6
	Quote: Originally Posted by KatKomics I'm always worried about any Kirby's I see - didn't his wife famously sign many, many, many for him? Yes.
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? 14.23K	14.23K DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by sportshort Both of my submissions for signature authentication, that I purchased from Steve Borock, were rejected. One was Jerry Siegel and the other was Jack Kirby. Just curious, if you don't mind me asking... which Siegel book did you buy from Steve?
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. 31.36K	31.36K flanders private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. 31.36K	31.36K flanders private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by sportshort Superman 235. I've looked at a few Beckett/CBCS verified signatures on Ebay and they don't look the same. That being said, people with long spanning careers have changes in signatures and there are also the slight changes that occur after signing for hours or with pens of different thickness. The main thing I'm taking from this is that those signatures not passing isn't Steve's fault. It's not like he forged them and passed them off as authentic or had them rejected by CBCS and decided to sell them raw without disclosing this. If you think it's real, you might as well roll the die with CGC/JSA.
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