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| No way I’m going to PSA if CBCS is discontinued. I guess I’ll start dealing with CGC again. Maybe thE new competition will push CGC to be more consistent in their grading. | ||
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| I hate PSA labels and they have Newton rings. Until they fix that it’s a big no. If CBCS goes bye bye I probably won’t grade comics any more. | ||
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| For me, if PSA changes anything about CBCS's product, it will be a disappointment. Ideally, it would be great to have the PSA machine pushing the CBCS brand....if the CBCS brand must go, I hope PSA adopts CBCS's everything...label, slab, grading processes (maybe soften on the grade toughness a hair), VSP, etc. I've heard the PSA slab is impressive...I've never had one on hand but CBCS's slab, in my opinion, is the best on the market. Whatever happens, I hope signs of CBCS remain. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by CaptAjax I would take Newton rings over boomerang banana books. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111i dont know what percentage Becket and PSA hold on the grading market, but it is possible for the whole deal to be blocked by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)(or Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CFIUS) for international buyers of U.S properties). If PSA acquiring Beckett would create an unfair market share they may only be able to acquire Beckett with restrictions of only being able to acquire certain properties or dissolving properties as part of the acquisition to maintain a fair market. Only time will tell. |
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| If PSA doesn't acquire Beckett or CBCS, given the state of Beckett, we'll probably lose CBCS any way. | ||
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| Maybe a merger, PCBASS. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie_Head I certainly wouldn't grade comics for my personal collection anymore. If it made sense to have something graded for resale value I'd choose the best of the remaining options. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC According to other boards, we are already a forum on life support. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson I wonder if things would've been different if Beckett ever gave a damn about customer service. It appears they've been digging their own grave for decades. Even though the Beckett name was the reason I submitted comics to CBCS in the first place, part of me wishes CBCS was never acquired by them. Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson I mean, it seems there are only about 20 of us that visit on a regular basis. I feel like we should all have a zoom meeting while drinking/eating heavily if the CBCS ship really does sink one of these days. |
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| I've been on this board since 2016....if the forum ever does dissappear, i'll feel sad about that. I've learned a ton of things from the members on this forum....came across alot of cool people too. It'll feel weird not having this forum to haunt. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Agreed! |
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| As I have said before, people like choice. If it were me, I would play PSA and CBCS off one another. It's a sorry rat that just has one hole to run to. | ||
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Sagii private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Sooo much to say. Typing on my phone so forgive any typos. First off i am not and never have been anti CGC, I use them love their product and chat boards. I am however pro competition. What gets me most is the influencers reporting on this, and even though they are comic content channels, you cant ignore that Beckett is a card grading establishment first and foremost. They are heralding this as the end of CBCS almost gleefully. They are to blame for this in large order in my opinion. For YEARS, drilling in the maluable contingent heads that CGC sells for more, never mind the fact that one of the key players in CGC's creation was also instrumental in starting CBCS. They kept a sizable share of the market away from even trying CBCS out with this very same mindset repeated over and over again. Nevermind about the quality of their product, and then almost seemingly enmass welcoming a another card grading establishment into the foray with open arms before one comic book slab even hit the marketplace. You cant make this stuff up. Then there is the matter of their competition keeping them out of events with exclusive deals, and most GPA analysis only taking CGC sales into account while ignoring CBCS sales. Sooo much lost data if taken into account I believe we would have seen the sales gaps weren't that wide in most eras. Any CBCS slabs I have will remain in them until I part ways with them, and anyone reaching out unsolicited for a deal on a CBCS slab comparative with a CGC slab or (gulp) a PSA slab will politely be turned down. I trust their grading and the book IN THE slab is what's first and foremost important. I hope they let the brand continue. With their money behind it hopefully CBCS can gain the traction it couldn't get with all that they had to contend with over the past decade. Here's to CBCS, you guys had it tough. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Couldn't agree more! |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| Time to chime. Will attempt to keep is short and sweet. When I embarked on my certification venture, it was first and foremost for the protection of the comics that I would keep for my "Force Ghost" permanent collection. To pay for that, I would encase everything, sell appx 2/3's and keep the rest. After a great deal of research and even sending in test runs, I committed to use CBCS. No regrets on the decision to encase or to use CBCS services. I do hope that this forestalls, hopefully permanently, the migration of CBCS branding to Beckett branding. That said, I also would not want to see CBCS rebranded as Public Service Announcement. If such does happen, I most certainly would not be migrating my collection to horrible looking psa labels. Any future upgrades to my collection (such as replacing an 8.5 with a 9.something) would be in pre-existing CBCS encasements. As long as the CBCS branded label/encasement is still in production, and the quality remains, I will continue to acquire high grade raw and cgc encased comics and send to CBCS for proper grading and encasement. Perhaps for the next year or two we see them be true to there press release that there will be no rebranding/closure...at least on the comics side. Maybe they do monitor and see what the natural progression / market share data for CBCS and PSA look like. Maybe they scrap the uphill battle for PSA Comics and take a path of less resistance with a Comic Book Certification Service that already has over 10 years of name brand recognition. Perhaps they actually use their superior marketing and or customer service expertise to bolster the CBCS name and market share. One can hope, and for the time being, wait and see. On a side note, I wonder how those former CBCS people who had been recruited to PSA might play into this. Hopefully they would look to reintegrate and push for the CBCS side as opposed to the PSA side. Again, one can hope, and maybe a supplanting of Beckett hierarchy might ease that process. Maybe such supplanting may even pave a way for a return by Steve and Pam. Lastly, if any higher up gets the dumb@$$ idea of booting Steve Ricketts, they will indeed boot me as a customer. Nuff said. Back to work for me. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 We could always take over a sub forum of the Collector Syndicate boards and tell everyone else to stay off our lawn. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson I Think This is what you mean. https://www.google.com/search?q=powerpuff+girls+get+off%27n+my+property&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS857US857&oq=powerpuff+girls+get+off%27n+my+property&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQABgNGIAEMggIAhAAGBYYHjIICAMQABgWGB4yCggEEAAYgAQYogQyCggFEAAYgAQYogQyCggGEAAYgAQYogQyCggHEAAYgAQYogQyCggIEAAYgAQYogTSAQkxNTAzMWowajSoAgCwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:10f8ca79,vid:FlzAgbM8BGk,st:0 |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sagii I do sell a good bit of CBCS slabs online, and I've seen firsthand the myth behind the "CGC sells for more" trope that continues to permeate the comic collecting culture. I've consistently sold CBCS books right around FMV, as customers have shifted to buying the grade and book for a while now (at least for me). With the dip in the market overall across the board, any perceived difference in sell prices have marginalized significantly, if even initially purported only because of sales data collected selectively/at all in the first place. Yet it is the influencers and collecting bros submitting hundreds of books regularly to CGC that have a lot to lose publicly slighting that company in any way, despite hard facts and reality about the business and reputation CGC themselves have established the last 4-5 years. |
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| I have been selling graded books consistently on MCS for the past couple of years and I can confirm that the CBCS books that I have listed sell for the about the same FMV or more as their counterparts graded by the cgc. | ||
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| I also need to state that the sales are not auctions. You open yourself up to all kinds of disappointments when you place books that aren't in high demand or top census into an auction format. Mark my words, there will be tears. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson This  It hurts watching someone give their books away in auctions. Wait for the price that makes you happy. Unless your selling something like these   |
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| Hey..... Wasn't there a lawsuit against PSA for poaching CBCS employees???....gonna say that gets dropped? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics I forgot about that. Seems like they found a simple solution. |
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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@KatKomics & @flanders, I guess I was too subtle in my reference.  Quote: Originally Posted by Scifinator |
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