I sent a book to those other guys...21860
 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Like the cgc label is a work of art. Give me an effin' break. | ||
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 Hmm... Moderated again!
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figment private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It's the "maybe this will give CGC some competition" video comments that crack me up. | ||
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 How do I know this? Because I've done it myself.
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| @Zombie_Head What frustrates me with videos like this is that they do nothing to show how good the company is at actually grading books. You send in a bunch of modern unread books published in the last year, they all should be 9.8. Send in some Silver or Golden age books for crying out loud. Anyway, not a big fan of the PSA label, though that wouldn't be a stopping point for me. The slab itself looks fine. Definitely won't be submitting any though, especially with those newton rings. As far as encapsulation and quality goes, IMO, CBCS is the winner. I will say Banana-Gate has helped me from spending too much money. I avoided a bunch of CGC slabs in the MCS Prime Auction. But I did win 5 CBCS books, so pretty excited to have those in hand soon. |
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 I have not set up at a con since 2029.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC This is how I think PSA thinks the secondary comic market will react to them. That is true to some extent given PSA's relationship with all the larger auction houses. But they are not doing themselves any favors with this rollout. What really seems to me to read as a self inflected gunshot wound is they are unarguably using that mindset in thier pricing for comic submissions. PSA simply used their pricing tables for card subs, and converted them to the same percentage based tables for comic subs....this means that for for all comics that aren't moderns with a declared $400 FMV or less, PSA's prices will be higher than both CGC and CBCS's. 45 second video partially explains this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79hMFtW-ygI AutomaticComics has been putting out good breakdowns/thoughts on PSA comic grading, here's the lot of them. @AutomaticComics/search?query=psa" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@AutomaticComics/search?query=psa Finally, I really hope that @CollectorsComics has a sit down with Mark Wilson, his old man and the head grader at PSA, to offer some constructive criticism on both these points...but especially PSA's decision to price their comic grading out of line with CGC both CGC and CBCS. CGC is by far the top comic grading company, by market share and realized secondary market prices....so, it's just not a good call to come out of the gate with pricing on their comic grading that is more than CGC's pricing, per FMV percentages. I want PSA to become a strong competitor to CGC, to lessen CGC's ability to monopolize the market as this hurts us all. PSA could do that, but they are very unlikely to accomplish that with their current approaches to submission handling and pricing. |
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 I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @lawguy1977 video had like 3 10 grades so that tells me a lot. | ||
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I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @PolarisNuclearSS2020 I don’t like PSA grading scale with no 9.9’s. So 10’s will be everywhere. A real 10 will have less value now or they will change to using a 9.9 grade. As of right now just what I see and know about the 3 companies PSA isn’t even in the running with CBCS or CGC which I don’t like CGC so that should tell you something. |
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| Nah, I'm okay getting rid of the 9.8/9.9/10 differentiation grading, especially considering CGC's past difficulties in even grading damaged 9.8's. What I DON'T like from PSA is the VF labeling a 9.0 would receive, as opposed to the Overstreet and other grading companies' standardized VF/NM. I finalized my submission earlier today for PSA. All moderns, I just don't have any silver or bronze age books available to send in (about 20 issues currently with my cleaner/presser guy) and didn't want to wait too long otherwise. I purposefully selected comics that I think will look good with the red PSA label, though certainly hope they revisit their label designs in the future (as every other company has already done before). |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie_Head I'm curious... could you tell the difference between a raw 9.9 and a 10 if you held them in your hands? And in a business that sometimes gives grades of 9.8 to ripped, bent or missing covers, and is based on some grader's opinion on a given day vs other grader's opinions on a different day... what is a "real 10"? It's all so subjective. Nelson admitted to doing what they were, for years, accused of doing...withholding 10's. While CBCS was accused by others of giving them out too freely. I've said before that I believe CBCS just didn't hold them back. If it's a 10, it's a 10. But again, it's all subjective. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I once had a guaranteed 10.0; but the special microbial microscope at CGC found an amoeba on the cover and knocked it down to 9.9 To think I had a 10 if I just had added amoeba killer to the cover. Damn! What a stupid effin grade scale. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Amoeba's are the worst....messin' up those 10.0 grades! |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Wait until you hear what cgc did to me when they found a Mycoplasma genitalium within the pages! It was one of them nudie books |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 lol!!!!!!!! Gross!! Instant .5 grade.  |
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Nuffsaid111 - That’s nasty (and difficult to kill)! |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo A good clean and press will help  9.8 back to 9.9 |
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 I like bean sprouts.
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James42 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So they marked my order as received today; the post office delivered it yesterday, so that's fine. I suspect we are going to see a lot of PSA slabs on eBay, since one of the post-grading options in the "received" email is storage in the PSA vault and listing on eBay. Modern flippers might move to PSA en mass if sales prices are close to CGC slabs; not having to deal with overhead is probably very attractive. |
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @James42 - I imagine the initial buzz over something new (and CGC’s continued “yes we have no bananas” stance) will generate a lot of interest in these slabs, which should help generate sales. I wonder what will happen when they aren’t all shiny and new anymore? Time will tell. | ||
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I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @esaravo I watched a video last night about PSA slabs. There is a lot of issues with them. From the top you can’t read the label if they are in a slab box. They are twice as heavy with Newton rings. Label is horrible can’t read what it says about restore or missing pages. They won’t be changing label colors like purple and green. I don’t think PSA will do well. | ||
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I like bean sprouts.
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James42 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Book is now in "Research and ID." Which I assume is where it's authenticated as a real book. They have taken a photo of it, in the bag it was shipped in. Looks like they used a potato. |
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