Has the subtle scratch on the bottom of the cases been fixed yet?21838
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FYI - I verified the scratch exists on the magazine slabs as well. I have over 1,000 ungraded collectible magazines not to mention hundreds of comics if anyone is wondering why I care so much about a "line". It is clear from the YouTube videos discussing this topic, that generally, these lines should be addressed/fixed in most production instances, either due to causing a weakening of the part at that point, or for aesthetic reasons (comics). The only time these lines are acceptable in a production scenario are when they will be painted over with a layer of paint and won't be visible at all and don't cause any loss of structural integrity. So, I'd still like to hear the official reasoning, but just from a laymen's point of view, either the supplier or possibly CBCS just hasn't adjusted their process enough to correct these case lines, but they should based on available info. ![]() |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Rydog CBCS isn't in the business of making plastic. They're in the business of gluing them together and charging for it. So if this was a process or machining fix, it's more likely $40K, not $400. In that case, a "no thanks, we're good" is the most likely response to their slab supplier. |
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Interesting, both of my recent reholders have this "scratch" but I couldn't see it until holding the books at exactly the right angle under a light. Looking at the book straight on I can't see it at all, and if I ever had noticed it I probably would have attributed it to "handling" be it mine or someone else's. To be honest I can't even tell if it's on the inside or the outside of the case. If it really is consistent in all cases, then CBCS has something they should at least look at either in their own process or with the vendor. However, all things considered in the slabbing business, I would consider this a very minor issue comparatively and it does not affect my thinking when it comes to submitting to CBCS and not submitting to CGC. |
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This is truly a non-issue not worthy of any prolonged consideration. | ||
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Think of it as a security feature. Any CBCS slab without it is counterfeit. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros You must not have watched the video above describing how to fix these weld lines. There are steps the operator is supposed to do to prevent them but they are not. It's a training issue with the supplier. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Ahhahaha ![]() I'm so thankful I don't have OCD |
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Posting once again for any who didn't see it. These lines are SUPPOSED to be worked out of the process. It literally says so in the video. So, either the supplier is ignorant/low quality, or they are purposely pawning off the product to CBCS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC01rcazldo |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drmccoy74 All collectors have OCD. Some are just more obsessive compulsive than others. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Good Point. I'm thankful that I can live with the plastic case around my protected comic book having a scratch |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drmccoy74I just looked at 5 books and can’t find the matter being spoken of. |
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@HeinzDad its kind of hard to see. I didnt notice mine till this post lol | ||
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It's not on all of mine. I have found at least two that didn't have it. If they do have it, then it's going to take something stronger than my eyes to find it. If that's the case, then it's even more of a non-issue than GAC mentioned above. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by drmccoy74 It's not even a scratch. It's made within the plastic, if it's even there. Like a wrinkle on your ball sack, it's just the way it's made. |
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@DrWatson Gave you a like just for somehow working "ball sack" into this conversation. | ||
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Per the vid, this is just something cosmetic, unless it’s not. Since I haven’t heard of CBCS cases breaking like the plastic shown, I deduce no problem. Now if one doesn’t care for the cosmetics that’s a personal issue, as in your decision to use the product or not. Im not familiar with injection but casting and mold making is my job. Make the mold wider so the material doesn’t cool? Now the slabs are waaaay more bulky. A new gating system? That could be costly, more gates, more injection areas, more machines, etc. |
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It’s almost like someone is butt hurt CGC is tanking and the only thing they can find bad about CBCS is a little line. No one cares about an almost non visible line. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by HeinzDad You missed the point of the video.They said it is ONLY acceptable to leave if it covered completely with paint.The entire video was the exact opposite of what you managed to comprehend. |
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I still haven’t heard of CBCS cases shattering though. So…….. it’s acceptable. Unless you don’t like the cosmetics once again, don’t use CBCS. Also, that video is generic AF, go ahead and trust any 2 minute vid online. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Rydog Acceptable by who's or what standard? That video has nothing to do with comic slabs....the only thing that video has in common with comic slabs is injection molding...and even that's not a 100% given. Maybe in the video, it's not acceptable for specific parts from a specific safety perspective but 100% acceptable for comic slabs. There is way too much attention given to this ghostly line on a CBCS slab that 99.9% of collectors couldn't give two sh!ts about. @Zombie_Head is right. |
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Life is binary, you are zero or one, no or yes. Everything boils down to that. Send my massive 1000 mag collection to CBCS or not? Your choice. If that bothers OP then he is a zero, no, don’t send them. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC The point of the video is to show that the issue is actually fixable and that's all that matters. Not who cares about it, but that it's fixable with some tweaks to the process. |
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You are ignoring the repercussions of fixing. One requires a thicker slab the other requires mucho dinero. Per the video. | ||
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Man, if watching a two minute video on injection molding makes you an authority on the subject, then after all the porn videos I've watched, then I should be a master... oh, nevermind. ![]() |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HeinzDad One of the solutions was also to simply modify the cooling time. I don't think that would cost that much money. Even if the video isn't 100% applicable to the scenario at CBCS at least it's something to digest, more than we've been given to understand from CBCS up to this point in time anyway. Hoping for more info soon. |
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Hey, where's that guy with the vegan mayonnaise custom title? I believe it might be applicable to this thread. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Zombie_Head I think the number of people discussing it, whether asking about a fix or defending the company's choice to ignore it, would prove you wrong. |
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No, they are discussing it because it’s a nothing burger. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson The assumptions and over-simplifications being made is hilarious...this is a literal non-issue to virtually everyone. |
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