Has the subtle scratch on the bottom of the cases been fixed yet?21838
 I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm referring to the roughly 1 inch diagonal mold or scratch line on the bottom of all the CBCS cases. Banana Gate and Shaken Comic Syndrome has me once again thinking of converting to CBCS. | ||
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 I do what I can.
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TheShocker private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Do you have an example? Im a newer collector and have CBCS slabs but have no idea what you're talking about. | ||
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I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I don't have any CBCS slabs myself but if you look at this thread you can see examples. https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/20778/question-regarding-switching-entire-collection-from-cgc-to-cbcs/#1 |
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| No....my last returns still have them. I thought it was part of the injection mold process or something though and not an 'actual' scratch I had to know what I was looking for and use a magnifying glass to see it - 100% will take that over the banana bends at CGC |
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I haven’t submitted anything since the new labels rolled out (cuz money) I’m not sure of the specific issue, but I have not heard complaints. Then again the “vertical scratches” have reared every now and then before the new label. I have a couple with the “vertical scratches”; hell I may have caused those pulling the slab out of the poly bag. Regardless of grading company; can they opt to not use those cases? Sure, but they cannot control what their supplier sends them. Am I defending “sub par” slabs? No not at all. I would want them to display immaculately. I do also understand that variations can occur during manufacturing and that the slabs only job is to protect the book inside. I could not fault a grading company for providing just that. All I could ask is I get what I pay for and the process is not damaging my property. If it’s that important to you then roll the dice and have CBCS correct it if you are not satisfied. Beats CGC ruining your books and PGX is always an option. My 2 cents. |
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I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yes it wasn't a scratch in terms of a cut into the plastic, it was flat, but visibly it still looked like a scratch. | ||
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I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash Yes, comic preservation is the most important function of a slab. However, one of the main selling points of a CBCS slab is superior clarity. So, I think a visible line going across a piece of the book is a proper concern. |
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by RydogI get it. If you’re flipping then time is a problem. If you are collecting then what’s the problem with getting a 100% reversible cosmetic issue corrected? CBCS has its flaws and I feel a reasonable tolerance for slab manufacturing is acceptable in the imperfect world that we are blessed with. Sometimes shit happens, sometimes it’s minute and sometimes it’s catastrophic with an insincere “it’s within spec” response with no solution. I’m not telling you what to do, but I don’t see any reason to not submit books to any other company over CGC right now. EGS is starting to look real good.  |
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I do what I can.
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TheShocker private msg quote post Address this user | |
This is my latest not i dont see anything      |
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I do what I can.
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TheShocker private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Oh nvm I think I see it | ||
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I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Bummer that this hasn't been fixed all this time. I'm stuck between banana gate and scratch gate. | ||
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I hardly think a minor slab imperfection equals the destruction of comic books by the the cgc inner well and slab. PSA is launching this month, maybe give them a try. | ||
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I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
| They are not equal problems. But the scratch is enough of a curiosity to prevent me from reslabbimg everything, which I really want to do. | ||
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 I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Rydog don’t forget Newton rings CGC slabs are trash. | ||
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I checked my recent submissions and they do have that line. That said, you have to hold the slab at just the right angle and have the light hit it just right... and then you aren't entirely sure if you are seeing it or not. My thought is that if something like that bothers you, then maybe graded books aren't the route you should be taking. Slabs never stay in pristine condition. Even my new car had a couple of places on it. Nothing stays new forever. |
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson yup..at first I couldn't see it at all and had to bring out the  after I knew where to look then as you say..right angle and right light...angles by the way that I never look at my books at!! |
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 You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right?
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DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
The line is still there but, to me anyway, it's barely noticeable when looking at the entire cover of a comic.  |
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I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm used to random skuff marks on my cases. The difference here is it is on all the cases in the exact same spot. Just knowing that is a rub. Not to mention why would a solid sheet of plastic even have this line in the middle? Imagine if every car windshield had the same flaw. I just don't understand from a manufacturing standpoint how this can't be fixed. | ||
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 Why just the women? I like bears.
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Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Rydog You know what's an even bigger bummer? That CBCS hasn't, to my knowledge, addressed this issue? |
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I do what I can.
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TheShocker private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Rydog the scratch is not in the middle its in the bottom. Its defenetly something in the assembly part of it. Not sure why they never addressed it but this the first time me noticing it and I have about 20+ CBCS slabs and never noticed it. For me its not a eye sour like the neuton rings from CGC or damaging like banana gate but I do understand that the visual can make or break for anyone. Id say let's bring this up to CBCS see what the official explanation is and maybe a potential fix. The same can be said with CGC. They have yet to fix the banana gate a Newton rings | ||
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Why just the women? I like bears.
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Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
| One of my biggest complaints with CGC has always been (whether with Bananagate, NR, smudges/scratches or whatever) that THEY are saying what is acceptable to US. Please don't let CBCS follow suit. | ||
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gaarddo they know know the problem exists? |
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I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by TheShocker I meant middle as in surrounded by flat plastic. Just doesn't make sense. I could see if the line was on the far boundary where the case ends, but not surrounded the way it is by normal non marked plastic. |
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Why just the women? I like bears.
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Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash I just assumed. Wade was summoned (unsuccessfully) to the thread that was linked above. The thread that went on for months... |
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I’m not an ant. I’m a rootin tootin Hornet!
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Zombie_Head private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The line doesn’t bother me at all. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It's virtually non-existant. | ||
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| If it's in the mold, it won't be fixed. It's super expensive to have a new master mold created. It would have to be for another reason than a flaw that is virtually nonexistent. | ||
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 CBCS Finalizer
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| Weird that I missed the summoning. Magic usually always works on me. | ||
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I don't have any CBCS slabs myself, but...
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Rydog private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson The first word in your reply "IF" is what I'm focusing on. As far as I know, nobody has addressed if that is what is actually happening with these forever scratches. If we could at least get a description of the exact issue and why it can't be fixed or even modified so the marks are not visible that would be a big help in the understanding. If PSA had a forever 1" inch mark on all of their graded card cases that ran across the image front, I think PSA customers would demand some kind of official answer. I don't know why this case (pun intended) is any different. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Rydog I think we're probably talking about degrees of magnitude of the imperfection. I'm guessing CBCS/most collectors don't see that flaw as an issue at all. I know some collectors want perfection on the slab but that flaw is so faint that it's not worth addressing it as there's so few complaints about it....that's my guess to what CBCS probably thinks. |
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