CBCS Announces New Service "Raw Grade!"2164
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| Just going to throw this out there. I have seen the good sticker but it's suppose to be tamper-evident. So what does it look like if it's been pulled off and opened? How will I know it's been tampered if I'm not sure what to even look for. @SteveRicketts ?? | ||
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| If they actually worked a sealed top loader into this it would make the whole thing more appealing, including the price. | ||
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Also if I buy a said comic on eBay and the two samll round stickers on the back look great for instance. How will I know it's the CBCS official sticker that is tamper-evident and not a fake that may not be tamper-evident. Because the only way to really know would be to open it. Then the grade I just "paid" for is void IMO. Not trying to bash the service just wondering I guess..  |
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| I wonder if instead they knocked like $4 or $5 off the standard fees (with limitations on the fmv and/or age of the book) to grade and slab the book with a "No Restoration Check" notation on the label. Then the service, despite being a little bit more expensive than the current raw pricing, could still be a cheaper alternative, it would maintain the integrity of the grade better, it can support authentic and verified signatures, can be re-holdered and maintain the grade. If someone wants the restoration check, they can pay a ~$15 "Restoration Check and Reholder" fee. The book can be checked for restoration while maintaining it's grade but have "No restoration check" removed from the label. That "Restoration and Reholder" fee could also be a standalone service where a raw book is checked for restoration and slabbed without a grade but a label indicating CBCS' assurance that the book is unreatored. |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Thank you! That is exactly what I am getting at. |
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| Issues with the price and the reselling concerns aside. One aspect of this I would be interested in is if they could branch out to other locations easier with this service. It would be great if they had mini satellite locations that offered this service (maybe even offer a certification for LCS to offer on their behave). Since the overhead/process would be much simpler than the full slabbing service. This would cut down on shipping a great deal. Which is the #1 reason I haven't sent more books in for slabbing. But if I could send a handful of books to my LCS for a certified CBCS raw grade just for my personal collection I think I would do so in a heart beat. Obviously this idea is not without its potential issues as well. Just a quick idea that I've had since hearing about this new service. At the end of the day congrats to CBCS for continuing to grow the business. |
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 Why just the women? I like bears.
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Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
| One thing that might be desirable is a "graded date" on the sticker. Is it? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Then we just have a "cheap slabbed" comic book for $6 (add the sealed toploader $2?) or only $4 less than a good slab with resto check. Bottom line is price has to go down 20-30% to make this service worth all the risks of various fraud/damage, and just plain make any sense at all IMO. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRicketts I don't understand how the insured value of $250 addresses the above scenario? If the FMV is above the $250 he's just taking a chance while the book is in CBCS' possession and in transit correct? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC CBCS is pretty good about keeping tabs on what people declare their values as (ie with reg slab subissions you get bumped up a tier and charged more if so). I cant speak for Steve, but I'm pretty sure the book would get flat out rejected if its FMV is over 250 on raw graded |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer Thank you for the explanation! Makes sense. |
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| I see a lot of hand wringing over the secondary market of these books. You're paying 37.5℅ less for this service versus full encapsulation. I would argue that the books will go for roughly 40℅ less on the secondary market vs a fully encapsulated book. People are also forgetting that this grade is the highest POSSIBLE grade the book can get if it were sent back in for regrading for full encapsulation. Personally, I will not be buying or selling these books on the secondary market, but I may use this service as a way of grading large chunks of books at one time for my personal collection. I do wish there was a yellow label service for these books. I would love to have Sigs verified on lower valued books that may be in poorer condition. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OrbitCityComics That's a great point, I wonder if VSP is something that will be added for these |
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| This would probably work for new books and books that you really wouldn't expect to be restored. Not saying I'd need someone to raw grade anything for me but I can see others that it might help educate. | ||
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| No resto check = disaster . |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| As it stands, if any one of the following three scenarios were to be implemented by CBCS it could make the current price palpable for me. 1) Add the restoration check back into the process. 2) Add a sealed top loader to the process. 3) Change the regular backing boards to crystal clear Comic Skin backing boards. I believe each of these ideas adds enough value to fill the pricing gap that I feel is not large enough to justify not just going ahead with full encapsulation. |
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| We're going to be talking about this service tonight on the podcast. It'd be so cool if a Steve wanted to join for a while to give us some insight | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @SteveRicketts Will the Raw Grade provide for Pedigree designations or will those require full slabs? | ||
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dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Sad face for the "other" Raw Grade thread that was locked today.  |
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Mio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Well.... there was no need for three threads. | ||
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dpiercy private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Perhaps time for a new "Raw Grade Makes Me Angry!" thread? Kidding! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by dpiercy I wonder how many feel it was the discussion or the quoting, and not the MEME's that locked it. *heavy sigh* |
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| It was the combination of one particular meme and one particular word that did it. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by MR_SigS I'm going with butthurt. That's the cause of most locked threads |
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| Industrial butthurt | ||
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MR_SigS private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I see the post that did it is still up for all to see. Interesting what is poofed and what isn't around here. This place have more in common with "them" then people here think. |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| And it was totally off topic too, I would rather see posts go poof and have the thread stay open in these situations than vice versa. | ||
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| Anything with the words butt or poop, even a meme with it is bound to me locked anymore. | ||
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I think this service serves a purpose. You get professional grading for books you dont want to spend on for encapsulation. CBCS offers another service that sets them apart from the competition. Good for them! | ||
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BigRig private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by BigRig Can we see a damaged sticker to know the difference? |
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