CGC/JSA shenanigans21617
 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So these smudged sigs get through JSA but I can't get a witnessed sig authenticated by Beckett, lol How can they authenticate something they can't even see?    Crédit to @ the9.9newsstand from IG |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Man,things are going way down hill for them . Sorry about your books. | ||
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GothamBridge private msg quote post Address this user | |
| they had no intention whatsoever of returning your money and pushed it through. I gave CBCS a Stan Lee, they deemed it a forgery and quickly refunded part of my funds and kept only what they said they would at the time of my submission. This is just one reason, I would like CBCS to surpass CGC. |
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 How do I know this? Because I've done it myself.
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lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Maybe it was CGC who smudged them? | ||
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @lawguy1977 the likey culprits. | ||
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
| They are probably getting kickbacks.... Probably all forgeries but passed them through anyways cause, well, money talks, BS walks. | ||
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I have no words | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Par for the course...not news...it's exactly what everyone should expect. | ||
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| This was such a big deal in the community too when it was announced. Smudgy bananas |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| " Sell sell sell!!!!" " Abandon ship!!!" Does the hidenberg ring any bells???! |
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| That's crazy. Those signatures would make Jackson Pollock proud. I wonder who those books belong to? |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I’m no sharpie smug expert, but those all look intentional | ||
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 100%. Why would the submitter pay to grade the quality of the autographs if they were already smudged? There are two at MCS. A 9.8 and a 9.6. https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ivitems=6349911#62447622  |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash It almost looks like they were smeared when pressed or stacked when wet. |
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ComicNinja0215 Not mine. Saw this posted elsewhere. |
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GothamBridge Lol.. Well that's quite different from how they handle plain old unable to verify. |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Sigur_Ros good for you but for them I suppose. I don't think there's anyway to fix that. | ||
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Probably verified, then smudged, then graded. I can't imagine sending in these smudges and paying extra for signature grades. Then again, I can't imagine someone having this many Stan Lee signed high grade 252's that were just sitting in some box until now. 🤷 |
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 It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Some people might question a Stan Lee signature that wasn't a smudgy blob. | ||
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| At what point does a signature devalue a book? I think we've reached that point. I would only pay a fraction of the price of a 9.8 unsigned, for this dreck. | ||
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders To be fair..if they could exhume Stan, get a picture of this book next to his ink-stained wrist, I'd actually pay pretty close to the 9.8 FMV.  |
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 Hmm... Moderated again!
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| "Gag me with a spoon!" | ||
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Kinsella5 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I am pretty sure that is the Stan Lee variant signature that cost extra. It's the new thing now with artists/writers. Various colors, different fonts, magical pixie dust ink, etc. Get with the times people. ;-) | ||
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Eveytime Chris Claremont scrawls his name across a comic book cover it devalues it as far as I'm concerned. |
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Keytothecity1 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| This book is on My Comic Shop for $3800.00, with a 3% buyer premium (114) I don’t like to get in the middle of someone making money , but that it one ugly autograph. | ||
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I have been wrong about many things but I bet I'm right on this, it looks like someone tried to wipe it off. | ||
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I have no idea, but I'm guessing it went like this... 1.) Books submitted to JSA for signature authentication. 2.) Books pass authentication and are then moved to CCS for pressing. Perhaps they weren't signed with a Sharpie. Perhaps they were. At any rate, signatures get screwed in the pressing process. 3.) CCS is like, "Oh, shit! Now what? 4.) The cgc is like, "Well, the signatures passed authentication and we screwed the pooch on the pressing. So, let's give the submitter 9.8s all around and hope that no one notices. Stan was shaky is his final years. If anyone asks, Stan smeared them at the signing. Yeah, that's it. Stan smeared them because who in their right mind would submit ten smeared signatures for authetication. No one will ever know. Lolz." If they were submitted smeared, then JSA is as big of a joke as the cgc at this point. |
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ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I am shocked no one at th3 cgc tried to fill it in themselves lol | ||
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson 5.) The submitter regrets not sending the books to CBCS. |
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