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just how much is (from Graders notes)---2161

Collector Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user
Just wondering..when the comics graders notes comes back as "light spine stress & wear barely breaks color" as many of us have experienced...how much is LIGHT spine stress? At what point does it become another number less on a grade? Thoughts?

for example on my own books as follows:

9.8:tiny spine stress & wear breaks color

9.6:small spine stress & wear breaks color
deep tiny indent interior front cover, noticable on cover, does not break color

9.4:spine stress & wear breaks color
light bends & indents to cover

9.2:light spine stress & wear breaks color
surface wear & scratches to cover
surface wear & scratches to cover

9.0:light spine stress & wear barely breaks color
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
Hard to say. I've seen
-tiny spine stress
-light spine stress
-spine stress

And then the
-does not break color
-barely breaks color
-breaks color

I would think there is a formula for designating the various combinations of all six of those items (and number of them) for a given grade.

Tiny seems to be just that, tiny. Hard to see up close. In my experience light is a stress that is seen at arms length while the last being full 1/4" obvious stress.

Assuming 1 single stress for grading question? From what Steve said previously 9.9 can have a single almost microscopic defect, and then from what I've seen on my books 9.8 is very hard to see, 9.6 can see it a foot away, and 9.4 no prob seeing it.

No way I'm taking a stab at this question in under 9.4 🍺
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COLLECTOR DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user
Is light worse than tiny or vice versa?
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Collector Watcher private msg quote post Address this user
I've got 9.8's with both light and tiny and I still cant see either so I couldn't tell ya
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
I see tiny on my 9.8s, and light on 9.6s.
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Collector Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user
@shrewbeer @Watcher @DarthLego I am editing my post: please review.Thanks.
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnylray
@shrewbeer @Watcher @DarthLego I am editing my post: please review.Thanks.


Helpful notes to see. I'm still good with my opinion 👍🏻

That 9.0 is a little light on notes though. Thats really the only thing odd i see
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Collector Mef private msg quote post Address this user
It all depends on the size of the defect and how much it takes away from the overall 'eye appeal' 1/8 of an inch can make a difference. We all have different opinions and that applies to the people who grade them as well! Just like @shrewbeer said though 9.4 to 9.0 is a tough call for me.
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CBCS Pressing SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user
Instead of thinking of these descriptors as a particular size or number, think of them in terms of significance. They may mean different things in conjunction to different defects or even different books.

For something like spine stress, you might see the following in order of significance...
Very tiny spine stress
Tiny spine stress
Very small spine stress
Small spine stress
Spine stress
Large spine stress
Very large spine stress

These terms may not be used so much in reference to size, but more in terms of the signicance of the spine stress.

As mentioned by someone else, you sometimes get additional description of that defect by the following...
Does not break color
Barely breaks color
Breaks color

In terms of breaking color, some defects are understood to break or not break color when no modifyer is given.
Meaning "small bends bottom right corner" don't break color because they're bends. Bends don't generally break color.

"Small crease bottom right corner" is assumed to break color, because a crease by general definition, breaks color. If there were a crease that did not have a color break, you would see, "small crease bottom right corner does not break color."
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COLLECTOR shrewbeer private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRicketts
"Small crease bottom right corner" is assumed to break color,


That is extremely helpful to know, thanks for chiming in on this one! 👍🏻👍🏻
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
Oops wrong thread.
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Collector Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user
@SteveRicketts Thank you Sir for the clarification. Appreciate that!
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