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Also, if anyone is selling an AF15 in a CBCS slab for an 85% discount because it's not in a CGC deathtrap, I'll fall on that grenade.


you and me both
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Hmm... Moderated again! figment private msg quote post Address this user
I call dibs on any MMC9 that comes around for 85% off!
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
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I'm not saying CBCS should send Giuseppe and Vincenzo over to people's homes and make them submit comics, but show more initiative than they do. Be more active on social media highlighting why they're better and how they don't have the Sarasota Shit Show's problems. Get more visibility in the collecting sphere. The CBCS-promoted MCS auction was cool. They could try that more often. Be at a show or at least have witnesses who can be available for all of the signature crap people like. Promote big sales, or come up with some fruity-ass collection like CGC does. And get some f**king customer service reps who respond to inquiries. The customer service is unresponsive threads get a little repetitive. Where do they get money for this? For what these cool cats are charging, they should have enough to invest in some slight upgrades. Upgrade the forum a little bit as well. I've talked to a few store owners and profiteers who like the people here but despise the forum layout. Competition in the market is good. Competent competition is even better.


You ain't even close to being wrong....
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The perceived CGC value difference over CBCS is likely the biggest hurdle. Just ran into this example randomly:



Yeah. That’s not my experience. I feel like most CBCS books I find online are over priced. For example, one of the few of these in a CBCS slab I can find right now and it’s over priced by like $200-300 and needs to be shipped from Hong Kong??? And there’s like 2-3 dozen CGC copies on EBay. Yes some CGC are overpriced. But there’s enough available to find a few options near current FMV. I never see deals like what you showed. I must have bad luck.

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@Danimal1112 ahahahha. Your post is classic. @Poka is a beloved member of the forum. I had no idea those are going for that much.

It is best offer and who knows if it will go up in value once the Punisher episode of the new Daredevil series is released.

As for that low CBCS price for Secret Wars, CBCS slabs tend to do poorer at auction and you'll have less eyes on your comic if the starting bid is $34.99 as opposed to 99 cents.
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I am not sure how accurate Go Collect is on CBCS, but there are over 300 tracked sales of Punisher LS 1 in a 9.8 and only 9 for CBCS. That’s a huge difference. One book that sells poorly wrecks the average price sold. All of this adds to the perceived value difference IMO. Maybe strike a deal with Go Collect to better promote CBCS stats? I don’t know…
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The perceived CGC value difference over CBCS is likely the biggest hurdle. Just ran into this example randomly:



Yeah. That’s not my experience. I feel like most CBCS books I find online are over priced. For example, one of the few of these in a CBCS slab I can find right now and it’s over priced by like $200-300 and needs to be shipped from Hong Kong??? And there’s like 2-3 dozen CGC copies on EBay. Yes some CGC are overpriced. But there’s enough available to find a few options near current FMV. I never see deals like what you showed. I must have bad luck.



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@Danimal1112 ahahahha. Your post is classic. @Poka is a beloved member of the forum. I had no idea those are going for that much.

It is best offer and who knows if it will go up in value once the Punisher episode of the new Daredevil series is released.


I have seen @Polka. Had no clue he was in HK. Didn’t know it was the same person. Thought it was a coincidence. Yes. The price can go up. My point was that was one of two CBCS options vs dozens of CGC.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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@Danimal1112 ahahahha. Your post is classic. @Poka is a beloved member of the forum. I had no idea those are going for that much.

It is best offer and who knows if it will go up in value once the Punisher episode of the new Daredevil series is released.


I have seen @Polka. Had no clue he was in HK. Didn’t know it was the same person. Thought it was a coincidence. Yes. The price can go up. My point was that was one of two CBCS options vs dozens of CGC.

There are at least two or three CBCS books I would buy on eBay if the sellers didn't think the pages were lined with gold.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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The perceived CGC value difference over CBCS is likely the biggest hurdle. Just ran into this example randomly:



Yeah. That’s not my experience. I feel like most CBCS books I find online are over priced. For example, one of the few of these in a CBCS slab I can find right now and it’s over priced by like $200-300 and needs to be shipped from Hong Kong??? And there’s like 2-3 dozen CGC copies on EBay. Yes some CGC are overpriced. But there’s enough available to find a few options near current FMV. I never see deals like what you showed. I must have bad luck.


I wasn't even looking to find CGC/CBCS price disparities. I was looking to price a SW4, so viewing Sold listings on eBay. This is about an hour after reading here about "the unproven notion of cgc selling for more".

Just a coincidence, but I bet serious research would yield more examples. Probably not as slanted as that one, though. Never, ever saw a CBCS version sell for more than a CGC, but there must some?
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Seriously… I want to buy CBCS books but not at a 15-50% mark-up. And it’s mostly a numbers game. Because there are so few out there, you have to be lucky to get a good priced one. I don’t want to submit. CGC ruined that for me. I just want to buy the book I want in the grade I want and will to pay the graded book price. Again, vicious cycle. That’s why I want CBCS to win over some big sellers. Give people more options.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Before covid, there were CBCS books that sold for record prices over their counterpart from the cgc. But... since no one tracks these thing or keeps records.

Plus, I have personally paid over the current GPA price for certain CBCS graded books.

Recently I have found it easier, and less troublesome, to look for raw books and submit them myself to CBCS.

Hell, I have even bought PGX graded books to submit to CBCS to avoid buying the new cgc slabs.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
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My point was that was one of two CBCS options vs dozens of CGC.


I'm not sure what happened, but CBCS used to have memberships for individuals as well as dealer discounts. These options were suddenly removed from the site. It seems CBCS has decided that the discounts they'd have to give dealers to incentivize them to switch from CGC isn't worth the cost. Grading fees would have to be substantially lower than CGC to account for the difference in sales prices between the two companies, in order to attract dealers.

CBCS did however increase the FMV limit for each grading tier, without raising prices. They also have a max $200 charge regardless of FMV instead of a fixed percentage of the FMV. I'm really surprised this hasn't generated more business for both high value comics and books that fall into the $400-$1000 range.

CBCS really needs to do a better job marketing their savings over CGC:

CGC Rates



CBCS Rates

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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Dealers still get discounts. The higher the volume, the better the discount.

There's also a few other perks.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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@Danimal1112 ahahahha. Your post is classic. @Poka is a beloved member of the forum. I had no idea those are going for that much.

It is best offer and who knows if it will go up in value once the Punisher episode of the new Daredevil series is released.


I have seen @Polka. Had no clue he was in HK. Didn’t know it was the same person. Thought it was a coincidence. Yes. The price can go up. My point was that was one of two CBCS options vs dozens of CGC.
I feel Poka is usually reasonably priced. He also caters to a literal world market and is in much closer proximity to a large portion of the world. I’m sure however he is pricing is what’s working for him.
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@Danimal1112 ahahahha. Your post is classic. @Poka is a beloved member of the forum. I had no idea those are going for that much.

It is best offer and who knows if it will go up in value once the Punisher episode of the new Daredevil series is released.


I have seen @Polka. Had no clue he was in HK. Didn’t know it was the same person. Thought it was a coincidence. Yes. The price can go up. My point was that was one of two CBCS options vs dozens of CGC.
I feel Poka is usually reasonably priced. He also caters to a literal world market and is in much closer proximity to a large portion of the world. I’m sure however he is pricing is what’s working for him.


I am sure that is usually accurate. But in this example, that one is priced at $825 and sells for an avg of $525 for the past 30 days, 90 days and year. It just so happened to be a book I was looking for and could not find one in CBCS reasonably priced. Probably an outlier or trying to hope for a DD show bump. People can list for whatever price they want. Either way, my point was that’s one of like 2 or 3 available with a CBCS label vs dozens and I tend to see CBCS listed for higher prices not lower.
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
And then there's sales like these...

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Hard to believe the buyer actually paid. Especially for a #45 label.
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And then there's sales like these...

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Hard to believe the buyer actually paid. Especially for a #45 label.


I actually saw that and thought that was nuts. Given there are so many for sale for less. Stuff like that is also why some sellers list high. Just sometimes people pay it. Makes $825 look cheap.
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Sometimes ego and FOMO kicks in during auctions and people do things that don’t make sense. I have for sure fallen victim to that once or twice.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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And then there's sales like these...

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Hard to believe the buyer actually paid. Especially for a #45 label.



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Gooo!!!
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9.8 my butt!
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by chester15
The perceived CGC value difference over CBCS is likely the biggest hurdle. Just ran into this example randomly:



Yeah. That’s not my experience. I feel like most CBCS books I find online are over priced. For example, one of the few of these in a CBCS slab I can find right now and it’s over priced by like $200-300 and needs to be shipped from Hong Kong??? And there’s like 2-3 dozen CGC copies on EBay. Yes some CGC are overpriced. But there’s enough available to find a few options near current FMV. I never see deals like what you showed. I must have bad luck.



Well...at least the shipping is reasonable.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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And then there's sales like these...

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Hard to believe the buyer actually paid. Especially for a #45 label.

Good price? Need a membership to see.

I found out even eBay is still biased.




Yes, search instead for what I typed, not what you think I should have typed.
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The perceived CGC value difference over CBCS is likely the biggest hurdle. Just ran into this example randomly:



Yeah. That’s not my experience. I feel like most CBCS books I find online are over priced. For example, one of the few of these in a CBCS slab I can find right now and it’s over priced by like $200-300 and needs to be shipped from Hong Kong??? And there’s like 2-3 dozen CGC copies on EBay. Yes some CGC are overpriced. But there’s enough available to find a few options near current FMV. I never see deals like what you showed. I must have bad luck.



Well...at least the shipping is reasonable.


Hey! I know that guy! (@poka)
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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9.8 my butt!

It must be a 9.8. The certified label says so!
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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And then there's sales like these...

clickable text

Hard to believe the buyer actually paid. Especially for a #45 label.

Good price? Need a membership to see.

I found out even eBay is still biased.




Yes, search instead for what I typed, not what you think I should have typed.
I clicked on big history and the last bid it shows me is $900
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
Potential steal of the hour coming right up...

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I haven't bought anything in months so I blame/thank everyone here if I win.
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
@flanders That is nice.
I have one I need to send in.
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