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Beaten by boat oars Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user
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Hit me as well, guess they couldn’t handle Nannerpuss.



The punishment doesn't even make sense. How did you get a 20 day moderation review and I got an indefinite? Anything banana-related grinds their gears. I've also refused to acknowledge their fruity little warning.


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Hit me as well, guess they couldn’t handle Nannerpuss.



The punishment doesn't even make sense. How did you get a 20 day moderation review and I got an indefinite? Anything banana-related grinds their gears. I've also refused to acknowledge their fruity little warning.



You seemed more like a rough and tumble type of character with charismatic leadership potential. The cgc didn't want to take any chances.
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I’m not sure they know they’re taking one for the team. Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
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We have definitely figured out at this point that pictures of bananas and videos with dancing bananas will get you reprimanded, I think the experiment was successful.


Has anyone tried “hiding” bananas in other threads? Rather than posting them in the obvious thread?
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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We have definitely figured out at this point that pictures of bananas and videos with dancing bananas will get you reprimanded, I think the experiment was successful.


Has anyone tried “hiding” bananas in other threads? Rather than posting them in the obvious thread?


Oh no!!! I'm not falling for the "hide my banana" game....again....
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Hmm... Moderated again! figment private msg quote post Address this user
I was going to change my avatar to the following image, but instead just sent their CS instructions to disable and delete my account.


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@DrWatson at least youtubers aren't afraid to get sued and are calling them out. So this is a separate issue from the accordion/wavy looking comics?


So here’s the problem with this. YouTubers may be calling attention to the issue, but they themselves admit they will keep submitting books because CGC slabs get more money. This automatic comics wants everyone else to rise up and fix the problem so it reduces the risk his 121 submissions he just sent in (read the comments) will come back unharmed and able to flip quickly.

If anything, calling out the problem then saying you’re going to keep submitting books is just validating to everyone that it’s ok to keep sending books to CGC without holding them accountable. That includes validating CGC’s position to them it’s not that serious!! Basically, if the intent is to inform problem there’s a serious issue, it actually does the very opposite. It’s not serious enough to stop and take a stand. Keep doing what y’all doing!

...I’d like these YouTubers to put their money where their mouth is, and lead by example (stop sending them books!) instead of continuing to enable it.

This is all I see on most of their videos. They'll bring up the issue, cite the complaints of other collectors, wag a finger at CGC, and then in the same video audibly state something to the effect of "I hope they fix the problems, I just sent in a 40+ book submission..." Foolish hypebeast peddlers most of them are.
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My question is why even bother sending books in to get slabbed when the books themselves are being damaged in the process? At least with CBCS you know the book isn't likely to get damaged during the slabbing process. Unlike current CGC CBCS will actually protect the book and also preserve the grade it was issued during slabbing. Not sure with PSA if their slabbing process has any kinks, but I do know they are having their own issues with labeling/grading notes as of right now. Hopefully, they can get those issues resolved and help to provide more meaningful competition to CGC alongside with CBCS.

Only when CGC is losing money will they ever try to go back and fix their quality control issues with slabbing. These people making videos crying about their books being damaged while still saying they won't use CBCS or PSA due to a 10% or 20% profit margin on resell are truly clowns.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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I've set up at a few small shows in the last few months.

Potential Buyer Question 1: "I have this Batman issue, but the cover doesn't glow in the dark".
Answer: You have to not utilize the protective white blank placed over the cover to protect the cover to see the glow in the dark. The glow in dark cover is beneath the white cover

Question 2 from another browser: "Why do people like these covers with no artwork on the cover?"
Answer: People often like to get original sketches on these type of blank/sketch covers.

My point of stating these? - there are uninformed, ostrich head in the dirt, oblivious, clueless comic folk out there that have 0 idea what is going on. I used to think comic collectors were among the brightest and savvy micro-group of the human population. And maybe they were years ago. But something has happened and many are just as clueless and out in left field as anyone.

This CGC damaging books is just another topic that most are clueless. They just see $$$ signs with the plastic and the 9.8's and that's all they know
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
You see it on the forum here as well. I have to get top dollar, I need to maintain this (obvious gift) grade, etc. A lot of people's feelings change when they're in a situation personally.
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If you want to bludgeon someone with a comic, PSA should be your first choice. James42 private msg quote post Address this user
@Nuffsaid111 I think a lot of it is fallout from the COVID boom. You have a huge new subset of the comic community who has never had an in-person interaction with another comic fan. All of their education has been through social media, Whatnot, and YouTube. They have an incredibly sheltered and skewed view of the hobby.

I think, frustrating as it is, it's our job as elder fans (even those of you who aren't especially elder in age) to teach them about the hobby if we want it to survive.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Some people are just new to collecting and are in the process of learning.
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I’m not sure they know they’re taking one for the team. Drogio private msg quote post Address this user
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My question is why even bother sending books in to get slabbed when the books themselves are being damaged in the process?







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@Nuffsaid111 I think a lot of it is fallout from the COVID boom. You have a huge new subset of the comic community who has never had an in-person interaction with another comic fan. All of their education has been through social media, Whatnot, and YouTube. They have an incredibly sheltered and skewed view of the hobby.

I think, frustrating as it is, it's our job as elder fans (even those of you who aren't especially elder in age) to teach them about the hobby if we want it to survive.

Bingo.
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@Nuffsaid111 I think a lot of it is fallout from the COVID boom. You have a huge new subset of the comic community who has never had an in-person interaction with another comic fan. All of their education has been through social media, Whatnot, and YouTube. They have an incredibly sheltered and skewed view of the hobby.

I think, frustrating as it is, it's our job as elder fans (even those of you who aren't especially elder in age) to teach them about the hobby if we want it to survive.


I think also a "new" segment of the hobby who never collected when 'professional' grading didn't exist.

I mean...growing up I'm sure we all knew stores or sellers who's NM's were NOT anywhere near an NM...so it didn't take long as a kid to a) notice the difference and b) start to learn to grade for yourself either through talking to the store owner or picking up a grading guide and reading that sucker cover to cover

The 'new' collector just knows what the label says...and they trust it....hell even if you trust it there are a range of 'defects' allowed in 9.4 or lower that for me automatically knock some books out....
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@Nuffsaid111 I think a lot of it is fallout from the COVID boom. You have a huge new subset of the comic community who has never had an in-person interaction with another comic fan. All of their education has been through social media, Whatnot, and YouTube. They have an incredibly sheltered and skewed view of the hobby.

I think, frustrating as it is, it's our job as elder fans (even those of you who aren't especially elder in age) to teach them about the hobby if we want it to survive.

I'm not a role model... Just because I collect comic books doesn't mean I should raise your kids.

Dr. Watson-Barkley
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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Yea.... when I actually do explain to those that don't know what sketch covers are often used for; or don't know that the white cover over the Glow in the dark doesn't glow .... they'll listen.

But when I actually tell them that CGC is bending/ruining books often and usually, it's like I told them to go brush their teeth before bed.

They not only don't listen; they fight you on it and call you an old hater of graded comics.

Sigh.
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Yea.... when I actually do explain to those that don't know what sketch covers are often used for; or don't know that the white cover over the Glow in the dark doesn't glow .... they'll listen.

But when I actually tell them that CGC is bending/ruining books often and usually, it's like I told them to go brush their teeth before bed.

They not only don't listen; they fight you on it and call you an old hater of graded comics.

Sigh.

Unfortunately, people like that deserve all the banana'ed and bloated book slabs they get then.
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If you want to bludgeon someone with a comic, PSA should be your first choice. James42 private msg quote post Address this user
Well, you can't reach everyone. Or help people who don't want to be helped. But those aren't reasons not to try.
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Beaten by boat oars Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user
I don't know if telling someone to figure it out on their own is the right way to go about it. I try to figure things out on my own but I also talk to the store owners, dealers at a show, or just random people that I meet about the hobby. If they're new and have genuine interest (and not about how much money they can make) then I will talk to them to find out their goals, interests, etc. I don't mind that kind of teaching. Hell, I think my introduction was a little insert in a multipack I bought that covered the history, conditions, and a few other topics lost to my memory. I won't help profiteers. They're on their own.
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Examined/Viewed an estimated 50+ 9.8 463 CGC slabs at first 2 Days of NYCC.

Only 1 book was not bent into a banana!

At least 2 handfuls already had multiple color breaking tick or full or full on bends.

One well known dealer shot me the nastiest look when he saw me viewing the sides of the slabs. Likely because if another customer asked me why they would be educated.

I do wish I had seen more CBCS at the con, Most of my cash went unspent.

Picked up only raw and 2 circa 2004 CGC slabs with books that of course were flat as a pancake. Also dropped off my first PSA sub...

Will say this about PSA , they give you a receipt right then and for the drop off that serves as proof of their acceptance. Thus insuring your stuff from the first second.

Unlike CGC where your book can be liberated at anytime before they check them in weeks later. 5 books of mine in 2023 never made it to checkin after a Con drop off. CCG claimed I never handed them over.

I wonder just how many subs their folks have so easily stolen over the years???
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Examined/Viewed an estimated 50 9.8 463 CGC slabs at first 2 Days of NYCC.

Only 1 book was not bent into a banana!


A 98% banana rate?!? I just can't even...
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Examined/Viewed an estimated 50 9.8 463 CGC slabs at first 2 Days of NYCC.

Only 1 book was not bent into a banana!


A 98% banana rate?!? I just can't even...


It's heresy!
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Collector 1979_03 private msg quote post Address this user
98% Chance CGC will damage a submission, way worse odds than Russian Roulette
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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@1979_03 just curious if most / all were Moderns?
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@1979_03 just curious if most / all were Moderns?


All were Bronze and Copper.
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Hmm... Moderated again! figment private msg quote post Address this user
<snark>The below image is for entertainment purposes only!</snark>




(Sorry, it's the medications, and apologies to the actual Savannah Bananas organization for dragging their name through the mud in such a slanderous manner.)
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
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and apologies to the actual Savannah Bananas organization for dragging their name through the mud in such a slanderous manner.)

You're screwed!
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Examined/Viewed an estimated 50+ 9.8 463 CGC slabs at first 2 Days of NYCC.

Only 1 book was not bent into a banana!

At least 2 handfuls already had multiple color breaking tick or full or full on bends.

One well known dealer shot me the nastiest look when he saw me viewing the sides of the slabs. Likely because if another customer asked me why they would be educated.

I do wish I had seen more CBCS at the con, Most of my cash went unspent…

…Will say this about PSA , they give you a receipt right then and for the drop off that serves as proof of their acceptance. Thus insuring your stuff from the first second.

Unlike CGC where your book can be liberated at anytime before they check them in weeks later. 5 books of mine in 2023 never made it to checkin after a Con drop off. CCG claimed I never handed them over.

Wow, that’s an unfortunately impressive number of them you found. I bet if others did the same they would find similar results, especially considering most dealers send off very large numbers of comics per order. Any one CGC order from a dealer could lend itself to hundreds of books being banana’ed, then coming back for the intent of selling stock for customers.

I did a PSA submission their first month of availability, received the books back a month later and I was very happy with the process overall.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
They recently changed their cost structure; specifically for "bulk" which is now only 10 comics!
And 30 days TAT for Vintage. Not sure I remember it being that low.
They must be hurtin for business.

Maybe if they fix their damn slabs to not damage the book, they'd be back to just being inconsistent/incompetent with grading.
It would actually be welcoming! LOL
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They recently changed their cost structure; specifically for "bulk" which is now only 10 comics!


it is a special offer valid until October 20th
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