The Banana Factory at CGC is Going Strong21596

Originally Posted by lawguy1977
there are absolutely retail sellers out there selling banana books

Originally Posted by GothamBridge
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Originally Posted by Danimal1112
It’s the big submitters that flip books for profit that are keeping that train moving. They don’t care if the book is damaged. If a buyer questions it, they point to the grade on the label.
CBCS needs to invest in signing events again if possible. Just having a few facilitators at select cons won’t cut it for those looking for witnessed signatures.

Can't possibly be true. Obviously we are on a CBCS forum, so I expect you to be very pro CBCS, but really, let's look at things logically.

Why would people, ESPECIALLY those who are submitting books to turn around and sell them, not care about a book being bent in the casing? they are trying to turn a profit. profit BTW that just took a hit cause CGC raised prices. (and no, you can't just raise the price of the book, most people are very savvy determining value, so you really can't have customers eat that cost. what the seller may have invested in a book is their problem, not yours)

"Big submitters" have a bigger voice because they provide more revenue. and if they are flipping books, think about it, they need that book to present well, ESPECIALLY when you don't get the grade you might want. Accepting banana books, for a flipper means he is going to have to give a discount to someone to move said book instead of sending it back to have CGC fix their mistake.

I can see there may be cases, especially on Con Exclusives, Exclusives and variants that need to be moved when the book is hot, that some might accept a banana book....not me, but I imagine some people. But to submit, 50, 75, 100 books, for them to send you bananas and you just accept it? Nope...it just doesn't make good business sense.

Both CGC and CBCS have issues. Be Fair. I see on this forum, time and time again, where you have a submission to CBCS and 4 months later, you're still excusing them for not having that submission back to you.

Plain facts: You get a damn banana book. Raise hell. You're a customer. You provided money for a service, they are expected to provide that service as expected the SECOND they took your money. And it's the same for CBCS, they don't have your book to you in the time allotted, a time table THEY provided in writing...then raise hell for that too and it doesn't matter if you submit 100 books or just 1 book...they took your money, they are bound. Period.

All that aside, I agree 110% that CBCS should really do something to push their yellow labels. Personally I think CBCS's current label is the most gorgeous of labels, and I for one would love to have a LOT more of them in my PC.

I have thought as an idea, if they are at a con, and a customer submits at the CBCS booth at the con, lets say, no more than 7-10 books, hell, even 5, signed by creators appearing in that same con (easily confirmed), that might be a way to really start to push their program. That same customer, may now be more inclined to pay the witnessing charge on more books because they got a few without paying that witnessing charge.

Originally Posted by Nearmint67
They are stuck with the fruit.

Originally Posted by KatKomics
@GothamBridge ....soooo...when a CGC customer raises hell and demands things be corrected...CGC tells you it's within acceptable tolerances (even if you can't tolerate it!).
When enough people complain...they lock and delete and pretend it never happened and it's your fault as a customer to ask for a product that doesn't damage your collectable.
Frankly it's a fu@king breath taking position to take...doubly so for a luxury product (i.e. something no one needs...unlike food or housing)

Originally Posted by DrWatson
The cgc was created as a way to level the playing field and give the purchaser a sense of security in purchasing. It's funny (in a sad way) but they have become the very thing they were created to protect against. You can no longer trust a slab from the cgc.