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	Quote: Originally Posted by OGJackster This was interesting. I currently have 6 books that I sent in to CGC. I put them in the "High Value" tier (value up to $1000). A couple of days ago I was sent an email that stated that 2 of the books were going to be placed in the next tier up to "Unlimited Value" and the cost was adjusted. I was charged $168 more. At first I was a little pissed about this but them I thought cool! That means those books came back better than what I thought and worth more! I'm not real good at grading books. I always think they are better than what they really are. Here's the rub. CGC is quick to charge more, in this instance for higher graded books, but if books don't make the grade that you are paying for, they won't reimburse you for a book that should be in a lower tier. One of my books I thought was going to be worth at least $1000 because of the grade I guessing. In my unprofessional opinion, I thought it was going to be at least a 9.6. It turns out it came back at 9.0 and valued at $260, well under the $1000 tier. At the time of my submissions there was a $40 difference between the "High Value" and the "Unlimited Value" tiers. Do you think CGC reimbursed the difference? Hell no! After a 15 minute phone call, this issue was resolved. It does make me wonder how many others this has happened to and gone unnoticed. The fact that itemized receipts have to be requested doesn't help. I don't get that, it should be automatic (which I requested they start doing). Honestly, this isn't a CGC issue, this is an every company issue. Your cable goes down, it's out for 2 days, do they adjust your bill for the two days you missed? yes they absolutely will IF you call them and call them out about it. tons of companies do this, if you don't question it, they walk off into the sunset with your money, but they are quick to take your money if they feel it is owed. I am glad you called them out on it!
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Originally Posted by OGJackster
The guestimation estimation game is just that. The eyes ain't what they used to be now that I'm over 60.
Here is the book:

Here are the Grader Notes:

Grader Notes
very light wear right top of front cover breaks color
very light wear right bottom of front cover breaks color
very light crease right center of front cover breaks color

When I submitted the book, I was guessing that it would come back around a 9.6.
I obviously missed what the grader found.

Here is the value:

I guess my biggest complaint is that CGC has no contingency plan put in place (that's fair) for situations like this. We are all amateur graders. They are supposed to be the professional graders. We will miss things that they find. Just like the resent thread about missed inside conservation/restoration that was missed before submission. If we miss grade a book and have it in a higher tier but, we are incorrect, then the book should be placed into the next lower tier automatically along with the cost of that tier be AUTOMATICALLY ADJUSTED to reflect the change. To me that would be fair.

Another issue is the value of the books. The days of the once-a-year Overstreet Price guide are gone. There are now several different price/value sites out there that have updated values that reflect realtime sales. Which is the best? Which is the standard? Should there be just one that everyone should use? What if the value of a book teeters between two tiers?

Anyway, I hope this clarifies what the issue is.

Can the moderators change my profile caption to <snip> 6.39K	6.39K ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Every time I think about resubmitting to the CGC , I remember things like this and that's the end of that thought.
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Forum Crier 56.04K	56.04K OGJackster private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 7
	The guestimation estimation game is just that. The eyes ain't what they used to be now that I'm over 60. Here is the book: Here are the Grader Notes: Grader Notes very light wear right top of front cover breaks color very light wear right bottom of front cover breaks color very light crease right center of front cover breaks color When I submitted the book, I was guessing that it would come back around a 9.6. I obviously missed what the grader found. Here is the value: I guess my biggest complaint is that CGC has no contingency plan put in place (that's fair) for situations like this. We are all amateur graders. They are supposed to be the professional graders. We will miss things that they find. Just like the resent thread about missed inside conservation/restoration that was missed before submission. If we miss grade a book and have it in a higher tier but, we are incorrect, then the book should be placed into the next lower tier automatically along with the cost of that tier be AUTOMATICALLY ADJUSTED to reflect the change. To me that would be fair. Another issue is the value of the books. The days of the once-a-year Overstreet Price guide are gone. There are now several different price/value sites out there that have updated values that reflect realtime sales. Which is the best? Which is the standard? Should there be just one that everyone should use? What if the value of a book teeters between two tiers? Anyway, I hope this clarifies what the issue is.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. 2.25K	2.25K chester15 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	I can't agree with the 9.0 grade. A minimal amount of color loss at the right corners, ok, but better than 9.0. But then I can't even find that right center crease from the photograph, so there's that. Grades are always a crapshoot. Could have been better on a different day.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. 4.74K	4.74K Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by chester15 I can't agree with the 9.0 grade. A minimal amount of color loss at the right corners, ok, but better than 9.0. But then I can't even find that right center crease from the photograph, so there's that. Grades are always a crapshoot. Could have been better on a different day. Zoom in on the right edge and right corners...
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. 11.93K	11.93K HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	I’m more surprised you didn’t get a 9.9 for the tier increase.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! 21.08K	21.08K Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	I'm quite confident that a re-submission, doing nothing else, will likely deliver a different grade. So tired of the "yea but it's all subjective" excuse that gets thrown out there to make us more accepting of incompetence
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. 61.56K	61.56K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 11
	I don't understand all the surprise. When you place an order with a bullshit company why be surprised when you receive actual bullshit in return.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! 21.08K	21.08K Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 4
	Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson I don't understand all the surprise. When you place an order with a bullshit company why be surprised when you receive actual bullshit in return. 100%
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Collector 1.62K	1.62K SidTheSquid private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Quote: Originally Posted by OGJackster We are all amateur graders. They are supposed to be the professional graders. I'm a better grader than most working at CGC.
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	Frankenslabs, stolen books, banana hammocks. That place is clown shoes.
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Collector 120	120 weinsteinjt private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	Quote: Originally Posted by OGJackster The guestimation estimation game is just that. The eyes ain't what they used to be now that I'm over 60. Here is the book: Here are the Grader Notes: Grader Notes very light wear right top of front cover breaks color very light wear right bottom of front cover breaks color very light crease right center of front cover breaks color When I submitted the book, I was guessing that it would come back around a 9.6. I obviously missed what the grader found. Here is the value: I guess my biggest complaint is that CGC has no contingency plan put in place (that's fair) for situations like this. We are all amateur graders. They are supposed to be the professional graders. We will miss things that they find. Just like the resent thread about missed inside conservation/restoration that was missed before submission. If we miss grade a book and have it in a higher tier but, we are incorrect, then the book should be placed into the next lower tier automatically along with the cost of that tier be AUTOMATICALLY ADJUSTED to reflect the change. To me that would be fair. Another issue is the value of the books. The days of the once-a-year Overstreet Price guide are gone. There are now several different price/value sites out there that have updated values that reflect realtime sales. Which is the best? Which is the standard? Should there be just one that everyone should use? What if the value of a book teeters between two tiers? Anyway, I hope this clarifies what the issue is.
	5 months ago	Post 43 • IP flag post

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