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| I've had my eye on a piece of original art being sold be Cool Lines Art (coollinesartwork.com). I'm looking for info on them in regard to pricing (do they seem overpriced?), reliability and just the overall buying experience. Has anyone had any experience buying from them in the past? I'd appreciate any feedback anyone could provide on them. Thanks! |
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| https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/464611-donnelly-brothers-coollines-art-faq/ | ||
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| I know a few people who have dealt with them before, and I've asked this same question of them. Their universal response was, "Good Luck." Not because of anything nefarious, but because they said buying from them is not an easy task. None of the artwork is priced and nothing is out in the open. Negotiating is slow and painful. I've personally inquiries about a few pieces way in the distant past but never received a reply. I've never cared enough to chase someone to do get them to do business with me. So, "Good Luck." Let us know how it goes. They have many pieces that I'd like to buy. I just don't feel like there's a lot of motivation there to sell, and that's ok. Just not my cup of tea. |
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| I've heard the same from my friend who has purchased from them. Except it wasn't all just "Good luck"; it was also grumbling and grrr-ing and pffft. Not exactly sure what that all meant and didn't pursue the conversation further, but those are not positive responses. |
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| Thanks, guys, for all the feedback. @The_Watcher the info on the link was really informative. I've been eyeing the same piece of art on their site since 2020. I've inquired a few times since then and, just as indicated in the discussions on the CGC forum, the price constantly changes (always going up, of course). Very frustrating since it's a piece I'd really love to own. Comparable pages by the same artists (it's a Bissette/Totleben Swamp Thing page) are priced at about 1/3 the cost of this from other dealers. |
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| For now... I'll just wait. | ||
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| 99% of their art list as inquire. No posted price. So guess what. When you send them an email concerning a piece you like, they send you an outrageous super high price. You showed interest, so they want to scalp you. If you pass, you'll sleep good at night. At the very least look for comps to determine fair market value. Heritage Auctions keeps the sales price of every piece of art they've sold. You won't necessarily find the same piece of art from a prior listing, but you can compare the subject matter, time period. Artist(s) and similar pieces for help. | ||
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| @DWeeB1967 Ask Borock. Steve knows who is legit in the OA world. | ||
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DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Thanks @Nearmint67. I actually did ask him a while back and he and I had setup a time to talk over the phone. Then, I forget but something came up for one of us (probably me) and it just never happened. |
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| @grapeape Thanks! This seems to be the general vibe I'm getting. | ||
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| Have not purchased from them but did have a nice (long) chat with them over some Toth art. I think it was with Steve. Also, know a large collector who I think dealt with them in the past and seems positive. Requested a list of prices vs just one or two selections. In my case, for what it was, couldn’t get to a deal. Original art is harder to price and much more volatile overall. Mostly because you cannot directly compare when all pieces are unique. Best you can do is gauge overall market prices by “type” for an artist and settle on a wide range of potentially fair. Or wait for an auction, where you will get a reasonable sense of value on a given day. |
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| @Davethebrave Thanks! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 Also, do your diligence on the specific piece in question. I was asked to look at a listing by a friend and had to point out the original “cover art” was not used in the production print. |
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| I stick with the dealers who know their business and price things accordingly. Why bother with some shiester when you can get awesome art from Albert Moy, Felix Lu, etc. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by the420bandito I generally agree with this statement and that's why I started this thread. Unfortunately, Cool Lines is offering a specific item that I've wanted for a long time. I just don't get a good feeling about them, even before all this (very helpful) input. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 Just remember, the pricing part is not cut and dry. Setting aside momentarily their reputation, why not compare their ask against where you value the piece? Then make a decision based on whether you value it more or less than what you’ll need to pay to get it. Of course important to layer on other considerations to make sure you get what you pay for. An aside on pricing: Some people spend ridiculous sums to get a 9.8 vs 9.6 copy of a book available in the tens of thousands of copies… and even when the 9.8 isn’t at all scarce. Those value spreads change constantly and market values, while more transparent, are subject to spikes and falls. For an original art piece, you will never get a reliable answer on FMV and, absent you wanting to quickly flip for a profit, that should not matter much. As for seller pricing strategies, perhaps they price high so they can suss out and capture more $ when individual buyers place more personal value on a particular piece. This makes some sense (whereas sellers who do this for books with many equivalent copies, do not). So if you need to sell in the future, just keep that same logic in mind. Original art is less liquid and to maximize value to seller, requires either an auction with lots of well matched buyers OR it simply takes more time and patience. This is setting aside pieces with mass awareness and desirability, of course. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave The last time I asked them for a lettuce quote on this particular piece it was priced about 3x higher than pieces done by the same artists from the same series/storyline. I wouldn't mind paying a premium over those similar pages but 3x seems steep. Quote: Originally Posted by DavethebraveQuote: Originally Posted by Davethebrave Right. I've thought about these points, too. This would be a page that I'd never have any intention of selling. Still... 3x. |
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| Did you counter with 1x? Also, is there anything different about the piece that attracts you to it vs others? Might that same pull be relevant for relative value? Not all pages in the same book are equal… Rarely hurts to try… |
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| Btw, not suggesting a deal could or should happen. My dealing with them resulted in no sale. Doesn’t make me write them off completely, however. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave I haven't yet but I'm thinking I may counter with 1x plus an additional 10-15%. That to me seems more than reasonable. Then, we'll see what happens. |
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| @Davethebrave What attracts me to the piece is that it focuses on my favorite character (the Spectre) and is from my favorite single comic (Swamp Thing #50). Plus, it's just a cool looking page. It's not a cover or even a splash page. I understand that this is the climactic issue to Alan Moore's "American Gothic" storyline so I can see paying a premium versus other pages in that storyline. Like You said, all pages are not equal. Still, 300% of the price of comparable pages is hard to justify. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 This sounds like me vs. Metropolis Comics. Every so often I would page through their inventory and see an amazing book - overpriced - but amazing. I've bent over and paid the piper a few times. I guess they'd say "how bad do you want it?' |
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Quote:Originally Posted by the420bandito Anytime I've bought comics from Metropolis, I've always been able to get them to drop the price by about 10%. Graded or ungraded, although I don't buy ungraded from them anymore. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by the420bandito I just bent over for a Silver pedigree book. It still has the certificate. I know I overpaid. I'm praying to God it's not banana-ed. But you know... supposedly one of a kind and I have 26 of its mates already. |
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| @DrWatson Good luck! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatsonI like the fact that you concentrate on a single pedigree. I had thoughts in the past of bringing back together certain pedigree runs but it's an insane mountain to climb. They say time is the fire in which we burn. |
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| Just Northland X-Men. I also buy place holders, but if I can get the Northland copy, the place holder goes up for sale. I don't think I will ever complete the Northland run, but something to aspire to, I suppose. | ||
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| Regarding the Brothers, I offer the same advice that was given to me that I should have heeded; Never Deal with Them! My first 2 deals went sort of OK, my 3rd was a huge amount of stress and total BS that no one needs. If you do decide to deal with them may the Good Lord have mercy on you because they wont. |
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