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| After sleeping on it. I think it could be a service that could come in handy to the collecting community. I will wait for the press release to see what exactly this is. I hope they go into some sort of detail like what type of mylar and backing board. How many grader's look at the book, the price point and whatever else they can give us in information. For people who can't grade this is a service that will make it easier for them to sell their books online without saying I'm not a professional grader or I don't know how to grade here is a crappy picture bid away. | ||
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| Are the bags being used Mylites? | ||
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jrs private msg quote post Address this user | |
| If a raw graded book receives a lower grade after being formally graded and encapsulated, that's the risk of having a book raw graded. If the book comes back higher, that's a positive. If you are not paying for the review that goes along with encapsulation, there should be no expectation that the grades will be uniform. But I'm sure that will be priced into sales eventually when people come to that conclusion. At bottom, it's an interesting idea I'd like to know more about. |
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Hey @SteveRicketts, just putting this out there. If CBCS can integrate some good "inventory/collection" features into our dashboards, then I'll get my entire collection raw graded just for that feature.  |
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Jerkfro private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson I agree. There are all sorts of reasons why this might be a poor idea. |
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Stronguy private msg quote post Address this user | |
| This is a horrible idea from a market perception standpoint. As these things start popping up on the secondary market after being handled and poked and prodded they will not be the grade assigned. Any dealer who sells at cons will tell you books can take a beating. This will lead to more, "look at the junk CBCS says is a 9.6", type of rhetoric. | ||
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| Why put the grade sticker on the front? They should put it on the back, on the flap, so if someone wants to open it they have to destroy the sticker, thus offering one more stumbling block for unscrupulous sellers. Also, if the sticker were on the back, a collector could display it without having the sticker obscure the artwork. |
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Stronguy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRicketts Challenge accepted. |
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Stronguy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by dpiercy  |
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Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user | |
| interesting thread. I can imagine purchasing one of these raw books and it being 9.4 for example, and by the time it gets packaged, shipped, received by me , and resent for "real" grading-repackaged, re-shipped and received by cbcs in florida it get dropped to an 8.5....Not cool by any means.. | ||
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SpiderTim private msg quote post Address this user | |
| It could work I say lets wait for the official press release and listen to what is being offered. | ||
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hawk_guy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Johnnylray You could say that about any raw book. Do you only buy encapsulated comics? Not sure how it's "not cool". Quote: Originally Posted by JWKyle Exactly. |
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BrianGreensnips private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I am with spiderTim. Looking forward to the official presentation. | ||
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JWKyle private msg quote post Address this user | |
I already have Scoop bookmarked. I check the site every few days just to see what's going on. On the scoop site CBCS has 2 press releases on it. This raw release and a Roy Thomas signing. If CBCS is going to be using scoop which is produced by Gemstone who just happens to make the Overstreet price guide, I think I like this a lot. CBCS using scoop |
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jrs private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by The_Curmudgeon Agree 100%. |
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by JWKyle Can you share the link? |
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SteveRicketts private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by JWKyle You may want to re-read that one.  |
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Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @hawk_guy No Sir. Actually new to the game of encapsulated comics. Been collecting comics since mid-1970's . Was primarily strictly Off the rack and LCS buyer. Now I am Sending my old "keys " for grading that is about it. "Not cool " was a good way of saying how upset I would be with that scenario of down grading through from the sale to the ultimate encapsulation. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DarthLego Quote: Originally Posted by shrewbeer Posted this last night, I think they had just put it up relatively close to when that ebay auction started |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jerkfro Not disagreeeing that there’s many reasons why this might be a bad idea but I’m not against it. If I was buying a book like this online I’d use the same discretion as if I was buying raw. I could even see myself taking advantage of this service if it was provided on-site at a con and the rates were reasonable. I have some books in my collection that I’d be curious to see what grade CBCS would assign. |
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I have some modern sets that I wouldn't normally grade due to encapsulation cost, but if this is in line with say $4 grade screening, It would be well worth it to make up some sets! Drop them in a nice toploader and voila, CBCS graded for cheap  @SteveRicketts Pricing announcement coming today? |
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JWKyle private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by SteveRickettsI read it all Steve I just didn't want to steal any thunder when you post this as a sticky up top it's huge. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shrewbeer My thoughts exactly. I have a lot of books in my collection that are not really worth the cost of encapsulation, but they are still special to me. I also like using toploaders with my more valuable and special books. Another plus I can see out of this is CBCS can offer on-site raw grading at every Con without lugging around the encapsulation machines. |
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| Maybe I am in the minority, but I like this idea... especially if the price is reasonable. After dealing with slabbed books for almost a year, I have come to accept there are many downsides, and I have been buying more and more raws online from trusted sellers. Specifically, I'm finding it hard to justify buying anything slabbed that I think is worth less than $200, i.e. the cost of the slab is more the 10% the overall price. There is obviously more risk involved in buying raws, but that's something you have to factor into your purchase decision. Would I buy a raw AF15? Probably not. The key word is trust. Another thing to add: This is potentially a more affordable way for people to learn how to grade. The process of learning to grade by getting books slabbed can be pretty unforgiving! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Stronguy This is my argument, too. Since the book is not fully graded, then the grade given is the best possible grade you might expect. Once it's fully graded a 9.8 could be worthless if restoration is detected. |
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| I can see this being way more popular with newer books where restoration is an unlikely issue to be concerned about. | ||
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adampasz private msg quote post Address this user | |
| There are cases where Restoration is not a concern, including * Original owner collections * Most books published after 1979 * Cracked books that you want to get re-graded, but not re-slabbed because you have run out of room in your house! |
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| This reminds me of the "Basic Sealed Grading" service at Midwest Comic Grading | ||
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DarthLego private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @dielinfinite that is the company I alluded to earlier. I think they're on the verboten list for posting images. | ||
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| @DarthLego Oh right! Does that mean we're not allowed to post pictures of bagged raw books with a store or dealer sticker that days "F/VF" the way MyComicShop.com does? |
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