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Pre-Hero Marvels !!!!215

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How about a crossover pre-hero?




Those pre-hero western crossovers are more than welcome !

I just became aware of them a few years ago and have added them to my want list.

The only three I am aware of are:

Rawhide Kid 22
Rawhide Kid 39
Two Gun Kid 68

Am I missing any ?
_bc


Off the top of my head Kid Colt Outlaw #100, #102 and #107. Here's a few; don't have a scan handy of the other.





Nice, I always liked the cover on Kid Colt Outlaw #107!
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My last pre-hero book, for the time being. I bought this raw on E-Bay in 2009, and sent it in to CBCS last year.


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Nice! That's one I need in decent condition. There's certain books that I'm more particular about and this is one of them. Always loved the cover and the story was one of my favorites as a kid.
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Nice! That's one I need in decent condition. There's certain books that I'm more particular about and this is one of them. Always loved the cover and the story was one of my favorites as a kid.


Thanks, TTA #34 and TTA #23 are my personal favorites of those I own. I was fortunate to locate these copies a few years ago, now they show up fairly frequently, but not in 7.0 or higher very often.
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I agree. TTA 34 I just love that cover. I already posted my book but here it is again. Bought many years ago from my LCS for a bargain price and because of the condition I had to submit it
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Sorry for the wrong picture. But can't seem to edit the pic for the right one 😮
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Anyhow Strange Tales 85.
Not the best condition. But for five dollars one cant really complain
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I'd be ecstatic to get that book for $5 !

This monster could be wiped out by a teenager with a Zippo:



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Scarecrow needs to stay away from naked flame.
And go into hiding during thunder storms
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Haha! Never thought about the lightning problem!

Glob fears the Wet/Dry vac (but at least theres some open flame ):



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Haha! Never thought about the lightning problem!

Glob fears the Wet/Dry vac (but at least theres some open flame ):



_bc


Great copy! Looks like the Glob might drip away bit by bit and finally disappear, if the chase lasts long enough.
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Since I know we have a few TTA fans:



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Completing the Friday night two-fer of TTAs :



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Tales of Suspense 38 officially marks the last of the PHM issues with a cover date of February 1963




Only Tales of Suspense 37 (1/63) and 38 (2/63) actually made it into 1963 cover dates; the rest had all converted to a superhero format by then or ceased publication in the case of World of Fantasy.

But it wasn’t the end of the PHM stories! It was just the end of the PHM covers.

The PHM stories continued as 5 page nuggets that were hidden inside the newly introduced superhero cover issues of Journey into Mystery, Strange Tales, Tales to Astonish and Tales of Suspense for another 16 months until June 1964.

This doesn’t include content from Tales of Asgard (JIM 97-125), Tales of the Watcher (TOS 49-58) or Wasp’s Tales (TTA 51-56) as those had ties to the contemporary superheroes (although the first couple of the Tales of the Watcher stories are questionable in my humble opinion).

After paging thru several collections of post-PHM issues that encompassed every issue of the big 4 (JIM, ST, TOS & TTA) as well as the first couple of years of the superhero titles (FF, Avengers, ASM, IH, Sgt. Fury, X-Men, DD, Thor and the like), the PHM Sole Survivor Award goes to:

SKRANG




Skrang was the last of the original PHM villains in the last original PHM story. Unfortunately, he retreated in fear from the Earth because he saw that elderly lady in the first panel wearing a fox stole while she was out alone on a casual evening stroll. We later find out that on Skrang’s planet, his race was at war with a vicious army of fox people and if this fragile Earth female was sporting one as a trophy around her neck, we were far too superior to even risk an attack.

That story appeared in Tales of Suspense 54 (which also sports the second appearance of the Mandarin - June 1964):




From there, we have to wait for the re-birth of Marvel Horror in the early Bronze Age and the subsequent reprinting/re-telling of the stories from our beloved PHM classics. To me, it sort of starts with the Tales of the Watcher re-appearing in Silver Surfer 1 (8/68) and the one-shot Tales of Asgard (10/68) and definitively reboots with Tower of Shadows and Chamber of Darkness in mid-69.

Here’s a list of the issue’s I’ve compiled that contain original PHM-style stories that continue into the Marvel Silver Age Superhero era:

Amazing Fantasy 15 (not like anyone’s going to buy it in any shape for the PHM content)
Strange Tales 101-113
Journey into Mystery 83-104
Tales of Suspense 39-48, 50-54
Tales to Astonish 35-51, 54

Here’s some of the Rogue’s Gallery from this group:

The Frightful Frog-Man (from Strange Tales 104)



The Star Raiders of Planet Torgo (from Tales to Astonish 37)



Tremble before the Killer Treadmill of Rodrigo Cadiz (from Tales to Astonish 50)



As you can see, these villains were just as cover worthy as Roc, Glob, Sserpo, Torr and maybe even the mighty Moomba !

I did not have access to any sizable amount of Atlas/Marvel westerns, so feel free to add data if there is any.

The Pre-Hero Marvel sub-genre that really originated with Strange Worlds 1 (12/58) under the combined talent of Lee/Ditko/Kirby/Ayers and others actually blossomed for 6 years until the superheroes were mature and diverse enough to finally carry the entire issues in June 1964.

Thanks for reading and as usual, keep ‘em coming !

-bc

PS – I’ll update the scorecard tomorrow.
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@_bc Great info
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Completing the Friday night two-fer of TTAs :



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that TTA is just fantastic in that condition
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@_bc Great info


I will second that!
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My beat-but-complete, filler, reader, placeholder copy of World of Fantasy 15 (first Kirby cover in title) :




That closes out that title
_bc
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Either inspired by the story of King Midas' Touch or Goldfinger, not sure which:




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Scorecard update 5 (5/22/2016) :

List of PHMs posted:

Amazing Adventures 1-6 DONE
Amazing Adult Fantasy 7-14 DONE
World of Fantasy 15-19 DONE
Strange Worlds - Need 5
Journey into Mystery - Need 50-52, 55-57, 59, 61, 64, 67-69, 74, 76, 78, 80-82
Strange Tales - Need 67, 69-71, 74-77, 79-80, 82-83, 86-88, 92-93, 95-97
Tales of Suspense - Need 1, 3-7, 9, 11, 13-17, 19, 21, 24-25, 27, 29-30, 32, 34
Tales to Astonish - Need 3-4, 7-8, 11, 13-14, 16, 18, 21, 26, 29

We've represented 94 of the 164 PHM issues (57%).

Keep 'em coming!
-bc
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Monday Night Space Beasts :



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i've got a show coming up at the end of next month, hoping to score some pre hero stuff!
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That cover is Kirby at his peak and on overdrive!
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This one has a cool multi-panel Kirby & Ditko cover:



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Another classic TOS :



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In honor of the upcoming Dr. Strange movie, picked up this prototype issue in the ComicLink auction last night :




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Here's another multi-panel, Strange Tales #96:


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An early Journey into Mystery love featuring the first Kirby cover in the series:




That makes the 100th PHM we've posted !

I'll update the Scorecard later - have a great Memorial Day weekend all !
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Another early JIM featuring ZOG :



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My last pre-hero book, for the time being. I bought this raw on E-Bay in 2009, and sent it in to CBCS last year.




Fantastic example of one of the absolute best pre hero Marvel covers!
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